αρκετούς αιώνες πριν τη JLH, συγκεκριμένα γύρω στο 1319, έφτασε στα αυτιά των εκκλησιαστικών αρχών της Παμιέρ, στη Γαλλία, ότι στη γύρω περιοχή, κυκλοφορεί ένας τύπος με το προσωνύμιο "ο μέθυσος", που διαδίδει φήμες ότι βλέπει και μιλάει σε φαντάσματα. Οι αρχές, με επι κεφαλής τον ιεροεξεταστή που είχε σταλεί στην περιοχή για να ψαρέψει καθαρούς, τον κάλεσαν σε απολογία με την κατηγορία της αίρεσης. Μεταξύ άλλων, κατέθεσε τα παρακάτω
Hugues of Durfort, canon of Pamiers, in whose household I served, died 8 or 9 years ago. Five days after his death, I was sleeping in my bed, in my home at Mas-Saint-Antonin. I woke up in the middle of the night and saw a canon in surplice, with a hood on his head by the glimmer of the fire, which was now shining into the room, although I had covered it before going to bed.
Upon seeing this canon, I was frightened and I asked him who he was and why he had come in. He replied that he was Hugues de Durfort. I told him that he was dead and asked him not to touch me and to leave. He said not to be afraid of him, because he would never do me harm, but to come find him tomorrow in the cloister of Saint-Antonin, because he wished to speak to me there. I told him that I did not know where I could find him, because he was dead. He replied that I would find him in the cloister and left.
The next morning I went to the cloister and found this dead man, Hugues, who was resting at the door of the cloister at the head of his tomb. He was dressed again in his surplice, had the hood on his head and had the same form and appearance of his living self, or so it seemed to me. I went towards him, took off my hood and saluted him. He returned my greeting. I said I hoped God would give him Paradise; he replied that God would do so and that he hoped to be there in a short while.
Then he asked me to tell Brunissende, his sister, the wife of Arnaud de Calmelles of Pamiers, to have 2 or 3 masses celebrated for his soul and that he would then go to his rest. And immediately after this, as I was withdrawing, he disappeared.
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About 4 years ago, I went to morning mass at the church of Saint-Antonin and soon after the mass I saw, at the place where he had been buried, my lord Bernard, once bishop of Pamiers, dressed in his sacred vestments, the white mitre on his head. At this sight, I bent my knees before him and greeted him, asking that the grace of God might be with him and that God might give him Paradise. He replied that he had confidence that God would give Paradise to him and to all, and that his Son Christ would give to everyone whatever they asked. Then he asked me the news of Raimond Vidal and Pierre Catala, his old comrades and said to me that it was his own fault that they were poor, because they had faithfully served him during his life. He said that he had badly paid me for the services I had rendered him and to tell the men of Mas to pray God for him, because in a short time he would be in Repose.
I saw him two other times seated on the steps of the high altar of Saint-Antonin. I did not tell anyone to pray for my lord Bernard, but I myself personally prayed for his soul.
Last year, towards the feast of Saint John the Baptist, I saw after the morning mass the spirit of Pierre Durand, canon of Pamiers, in the choir of the church of Saint-Antonin, who was wearing his surplice and hood on his head. Upon seeing me, he said "Ah, Botheler, welcome!" I replied that I hoped God would give him the grace to go to Paradise, as well as to all the others. He told me that God would give it to him and to all the faithful christians.
I asked him how he was and he said "Quite well now, but I have known a terrible place." I asked him which. He replied "I have passed through the fire of purgatory which is fierce and terrible. But I only passed through." He also asked me to pray for him.
I saw him one other time in the cloister and he said to me that God would recompense the present bishop of Pamiers for the honors which he had done to him or caused to be done. I saw him one other time again in the cloister and then I saw him no more; because of this I believe that he is in Repose.
All of the above-mentioned spirits said to me that there is no need to have fear of eternal damnation because it suffices that one be a faithful Christian and that one be confessed and repent in order not to be damned, because Christ has made all in his image and resemblance and has given for us his body and his blood.
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ωστόσο δεν έβλεπε μόνο παπάδες:
I saw Barcelone, the widow of Pons Fauré, in the street near Saint-Antonin, who was coming from the church of Saint-Paul les Allemans and had her arms uncovered up to the elbows. She said to me "Botheler, it would be better if the silk which which I adorn my arms was not being used again! I said that one could see that well and that she was very badly dressed on her arms. She asked me to go see Brune d'Escosse, her mother and tell her to remove the (burial) silk from her shirts and clothes. But I did not do this.
όταν δεν έκανε χαμαλοδουλειές για τους πεθαμένους, πιάνανε ψιλή κουβεντούλα για θεολογικά ζητήματα
A year and a half ago, I was on the high road which goes from Foix to Pamiers and I spoke to Guillaume d'Arignac of Pamiers, who was already dead, asking him how he was. As we were talking thus, his wife came by, who was also dead. I asked what her grandchildren were doing, the three daughters of her son, dead in infancy, because her son Raimond d'Arignac wished to know. She told me that she had not seen them after their interment, but that they had gone forthwith to Repose. This is what happens to all the baptised infants when they die before their seventh year. I asked her what happens to unbaptised infants. She told me that they go to an obscure place where they suffer no ill nor partake of any good. They rest there until Judgement.
ενώ θυμότανε με λεπτομέρειες τη χαρακτηριστικά είχαν τα φαντάσματα και τι του λέγανε
The dead are the same size, form and figure of their living selves.
They do penance in going to different churches as has been said. Some go quickly, others more slowly, in the sense that those who have the greatest penance go the quickest. This is why userers go like the wind, but those who have a smaller penance walk slowly. From none have I ever heard that they undergo any penance other than this movement, except the above-mentioned Pierre Durand who had passed through the fire of Purgatory. When they cease to visit the churches, they go to the place of Repose, in which they rest and will rest just until the day of Judgement, as the dead themselves have told me.
This is what I believe myself and what I have believed since I have been told. But I do not know and have never heard them say of what type or where this place of Repose is located. I believe therefore that it is on the earth. But after the Judgement God will call them to the celestial kingdom.
Those who died young and robust have some trouble moving forward. But those who died in old age struggle even more, quake and fall to the earth and cannot pick themselves up if they are not aided by their friends and acquaintances. Those who do not know them pass over them without a thought of aiding them.
To the dead, it is pleasing that their friends have masses celebrated for them, or that one puts oil in the lamps of the churches where they were parishioners, because this is pleasing to God and they seem to be better. It displeases them when one does not pay the bequests that they have made, and they would rather have left 10 sous which will be paid immediately than 100 which are paid slowly. The dead, according to what I have heard from some of them, wish that all the living men and women were dead. But they say and have said to me that the living ought to prolong life as long as they can and fortify themselves. I have never heard them give any explanation for this.
I have heard many of the dead women say that that they have come from time to time to see their young grandchildren, at least the baptised ones, and they derived great pleasure from this. I myself have seen my dead mother-in-law Raimonde come 3 or 4 years ago to see my son Raimond, who now is 6 or 7 years old. She embraced him and kissed him saying "May God give you honesty by his grace" after which she disappeared immediately.
I often saw dead Jews, some of whom went backwards, others forwards like the other dead. But I never saw them enter into churches. They travel along the roads, not with the Christians, but amongst themselves and I do not know if they go to the place of Repose.
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How were you able to distinguish Jews and Christians?
Because they stink and they hold themselves apart from the others. 
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