stavmanr έγραψε: 09 Δεκ 2019, 06:49
Πορφύριος Εξαρχίδης έγραψε: 08 Δεκ 2019, 17:45
Αγαπητέ σύντροφε θα πρέπει να καταλάβεις ότι ουδεμία σχέση έχει ένα ολόκληρο κράτος με τους πολίτες του να θεωρούν τη γυναίκα ζώο για να βιάζουν και να σκοτώνουν χωρίς δισταγμό με την επταετία της χούντας. Παρόλα αυτά, κάνε μια έρευνα αν θέλεις και φέρε πηγή για το πετάλωμα κομουνιστών.
Αν θα βρεις κάτι, οτιδήποτε να γνωρίζεις αγαπητέ σύντροφε ότι δεν μπορεί να συγκριθεί με τη βία που ασκείται ακόμα και σήμερα στο Πακιστάν.
Είναι κομμάτι της κουλτούρας τους.
Issues[edit]
The group War Against Rape (WAR) has documented the severity of the rape problem in Pakistan and of police indifference to it.[46] WAR is an NGO whose mission is to publicize the problem of rape in Pakistan; in a report released in 1992, of 60 reported cases of rape, 20% involved police officers. In 2008 the group claimed that several of its members were assaulted by a religious group as they tried to help a woman who had been gang raped identify her assailants.[47]
According to a study carried out by Human Rights Watch there is a rape once every two hours,[48] a gang rape every hour [49][50] and 70-90 percent women are suffering with some kind of domestic violence.[48]
According to Women's Studies professor Shahla Haeri, rape in Pakistan is "often institutionalized and has the tacit and at times the explicit approval of the state".[5] According to a study by Human Rights Watch, there is a rape once every two hours[48] and a gang rape every eight.[50] Asma Jahangir, a lawyer and co-founder of the women's rights group Women's Action Forum, reported in a 1988 study of female detainees in Punjab that around 72 percent of them stated they had been sexually abused while in custody.[51]
Marital Rape[edit]
I
n Pakistan, approximately 70-90% of women face some form of domestic abuse during their lifetime.[52] Marital rape is a common form of spousal abuse as it is not considered to be a crime under the Zina laws.[53] Many men and women in Pakistan are raised with the beliefs that "sex is a man's right in marriage".[54] Women are instilled with the concept that their purpose in society is to fulfill a man's desires as well as to bear children.[55] The topic of sex is a taboo subject in Pakistan, therefore women often refrain from reporting their experiences with rape.[56] Marital abuse in general is considered to be a family and private matter in Pakistan which is another reason of why women refrain from reporting in fear of social judgement.[57] Non consensual marital sex can lead to issues with reproductive health, unsafe sex, as well as pregnancies.[58] Studies show that martial rape continues through out the course of pregnancies, as well as can lead to the birth of numerous babies.[59] Studies show that marital rape commonly occurs in Pakistan because of the husband's desire to have more children and in particular, to have sons.[60]
Πρόσεξε τώρα πόσο έξω πέφτεις στις αρχικές σου εκτιμήσεις: η πλειονότητα των περιπτώσεων αφορά "marital rape" δηλαδή "συζυγικά καθήκοντα" όπως ήταν γνωστά και σε εμάς μέχρι πριν λίγες δεκαετίες.
Παίρνεις τα "συζυγικά καθήκοντα", που αποτελούν μεν είδος βιασμού, τα ονομάζεις γενικά βιασμό, και τα χρησιμοποιείς ως επιχείρημα κατά της μετανάστευσης, λες και θα παντρευτείς πακιστανό και φοβάσαι μη σε βιάσει θεωρώντας ότι έτσι εκληπρώνονται οι συζυγικές σας υποχρεώσεις...Για να καταλάβεις πόσο κοντά είμαστε,
στην Ελλάδα μας (που δήθεν θα μάθει από πακιστανούς τη συζυγική βία) μόλις το 2006 απαγορεύτηκε ο συζυγικός βιασμός δια νόμου.
https://www.k-mag.gr/%CF%83%CF%85%CE%B6 ... BD-%CE%AE/
Επιπλέον,
σε ένα μόνο μήνα, έγιναν πάνω από 5000 κλήσεις για κακοποίηση γυναικών στην Ελλάδα, που φοβάται ότι θα μάθει την έμφυλη βία από τους μετανάστες.
https://www.efsyn.gr/ellada/dikaiomata/ ... i-gynaikon
Τέλος, για να θέλουν να φύγουν από το πακιστάν και να ζήσουν στην Ελλάδα προφανώς δεν τους ταιριάζει η σημερινή κατάσταση στο πακιστάν, δηλαδή θεωρούν ότι δεν τους αξίζει αυτός ο τρόπος ζωής.
Είναι απλά τραγικός ο τρόπος με τον οποίο επιχειρηματολογείς. Όχι μόνο εσύ, αλλά γενικά αυτά που διαβάζουμε από τους μεταναστοφάγους είναι τελείως τραγικά.
Καλέ μου φίλε οι εκτιμήσεις δεν είναι δικές μου. H αλήθεια είναι ότι αναφορικά με το Πακιστάν οι εκτιμήσεις βιασμών είναι μάλλον συντηρητικές αφού δεν δίνονται συγκεκριμένα στοιχεία.
Δείγματα όμως της κουλτούρας του μπορείς να βρεις κι εδώ:
In 2002, 30-year-old Mukhtaran Bibi (Mukhtār Mā'ī) was gang raped on the orders of the village council as an "honour rape" after allegations that her 12-year-old brother had had sexual relations with a woman from a higher caste.[20] Although custom would expect her to commit suicide after being raped,[21][22][23] Mukhtaran spoke up, and pursued the case, which was picked up by both domestic and international media. On 1 September 2002, an anti-terrorism court sentenced 6 men (including the 4 rapists) to death for rape. In 2005, the Lahore High Court cited "insufficient evidence" and acquitted 5 of the 6 convicted, and commuted the punishment for the sixth man to a life sentence. Mukhtaran and the government appealed this decision, and the Supreme Court suspended the acquittal and held appeal hearings.[24] In 2011, the Supreme Court too acquitted the accused. Mukhtār Mā'ī's story was the subject of a Showtime (TV network) documentary called Shame, directed by Mohammed Naqvi,[25] which won awards including a TV Academy Honor (Special Emmy) of the Academy of Television Arts and Sciences.[26]
In 2005, a woman claimed to have been gang raped by four police officers for refusing to pay them a bribe so her husband would be released from prison. One officer was arrested and three have disappeared.
A 23-year-old woman in Faisalabad made public accusations against the police, saying her husband had been arrested for creating forged documents; she alleges she was raped on the orders of the chief of police for her actions. The officer was suspended but not arrested.[27]
Kainat Soomro was a 13-year-old schoolgirl when she was kidnapped and gang raped for four days. Her protest has led to the murder of her brother, a death sentence from the elders of her village, and threats from the rapists, who after four years still remain at large.[28]
Shazia Khalid was raped in Balochistan in the ruling of Pervez Musharaf.
In 2012, three members of the Border Police were remanded into custody for raping five women aged between fifteen and twenty-one. The women claim they were taken from a picnic area to the police station in Dera Ghazi Khan, where the police filmed themselves sexually assaulting the women.[29]
In January 2014, a village council ordered gang-rape that was carried out in the same Muzaffargarh district where the Mukhtaran Bibi took place in 2002.[30]
In the 2014 Layyah rape murder incident, on 19 June 2014, a 21-year-old woman was gang raped and murdered in Layyah district, Punjab province of Pakistan.[31]
In September 2014, three sons of Mian Farooq, a ruling party parliamentarian from Faisalabad, were accused of abducting and gang raping of a teenage girl. The rapists were later released by the court.[32]
In July 2017, a panchayat ordered rape of a 16-year-old girl in Multan as punishment for her brother's conduct.[33]
In December 2017, a 25-year-old girl was gang-raped by four dacoits during a robbery at her house in Multan.[34]
In December 2017, A girl who married against the wishes of her family was allegedly raped by influential members of a panchayat.[35]
Βλέπεις ότι σε πολλές περιπτώσεις ο βιασμός επιβάλλεται από περιφερειακές αρχές και εξουσίες. Ο λόγος; Η συμπεριφορά του αδελφού μιας δεκαεξάχρονης που καταδικάζεται σε βιασμό. Ενώ σε άλλες περιπτώσεις τους βιασμούς τους κάνουν οι ίδιοι οι αστυνομικοί.
Διάβασε και το παρακάτω
προσεκτικά όμως σύντροφε.
The Kasur child sexual abuse scandal is a series of child sexual abuses that occurred in Hussain Khanwala village in Kasur District, Punjab, Pakistan from 2006 to 2014, culminating in a major political scandal in 2015.
After the discovery of hundreds of video clips showing children performing forced sex acts, various Pakistani media organizations estimated that 280 to 300 children, most of them male, were victims of sexual abuse.[1] The scandal involved an organized crime ring that sold child pornography to porn sites, and blackmailed and extorted relatives of the victims.[2]
The scandal caused nationwide outrage,[2] among allegations that the Punjab police and Malik Ahmad Saeed Khan, Kasur's Member of the Provincial Assembly from the ruling Pakistan Muslim League (Nawaz), were involved in an attempted cover-up of the abuse.[3]
It is cited by both news agencies and government departments as the largest child abuse scandal in Pakistan's history.[4] Besides large-scale public condemnation, 50 Pakistani clergy and religious scholars issued a fatwa (religious decree) for capital punishment of the culprits, and demanded that the government console the victims and their parents.[5]
On 9 August 2015, the Chief Minister of Punjab Shehbaz Sharif ordered the Punjab Home Department to request Chief Justice of the Lahore High Court Manzoor Ahmed Malik to constitute a judicial inquiry into the sex abuse case.[9] On the next day, the Chief Justice rejected the request, observing that the Punjab police was already investigating the case hence there was no need of a separate judicial commission.[10]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kasur_chi ... se_scandal
Αφού βλέπω ότι το θέμα με τους πεταλωμένους κομουνιστές μάλλον προσπεράστηκε περιμένω να μου φέρεις ανάλογες περιπτώσεις βιασμών από την Ελλάδα.