Κόλαση: καίγονται τα πρώτα σπίτια

[Kauldron]

σημασια εχει οτι ταισαμε σανο τα προβατα


Σύμφωνα με πληροφορίες, πρόκειται για κατεστραμμένο εξάρτημα ηλεκτρονικού τσιγάρου, με τα εξειδικευμένα στελέχη της Πυροσβεστικής να πιστεύουν ότι δεν τοποθετήθηκε από κάποιον στο συγκεκριμένο σημείο με σκοπό τον εμπρησμό, αλλά και ότι δεν θα ήταν ικανό από μόνο του να προκαλέσει πυρκαγιά.

https://twitter.com/HuffPostGreece/stat ... 8971207680

Είναι εμπρηστικός μηχανισμός που τον έφτιαξαν οι Ρώσοι έτσι ωστε να φαίνεται σαν ηλεκτρονικό τσιγάρο.

[Orion22]

meanwhile:

Έντονη κινητοποίηση της Πυροσβεστικής υπηρεσίας Πύργου για νέα εστία πυρκαγιάς στην Αρχαία Ολυμπία, κοντά στο ξενοδοχείο Αμαλία.

Σύμφωνα με πληροφορίες, η φωτιά καίει σε αναγεννημένο δάσος.

Δόθηκε εντολή για εναέρια μέσα.

Νεότερη ενημέρωση

Έγινε εκτροπή των εναέριων μέσων από την Παλαιοβαρβάσαινα στην Αρχαία Ολυμπία για να προλάβουν τα χειρότερα, αφού η φωτιά είναι μέσα στο χωριό.

Νεότερη ενημέρωση

Eνεργοποιήθηκε το σύστημα πυρόσβεσης πέριξ του αρχαιολογικού χώρου και του Κρόνιου λόφου, υπό το φόβο επέκτασης πυρκαγιάς προς τα εκεί.

https://www.ilialive.gr/live/%CE%B5%CF% ... CF%85.html



Συναγερμός σήμανε στην Πυροσβεστική Υπηρεσία πριν από λίγη ώρα, για νέο πύρινο μέτωπο (σ.σ. μαίνονται φωτιές σε Παλαιοβαρβάσαινα και Καρούτες), στην Αρχαία Ολυμπία, και μάλιστα πολύ κοντά στην πόλη.

Η φωτιά καίει δασική έκταση, ενώ στο σημείο επιχειρούν ισχυρές δυνάμεις της Π.Υ, με τη συνδρομή εναέριων μέσων.

[Ίακχος]

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Spoiler

Simon Calder: What the Rhodes wildfire crisis has taught us about holiday risks
A seven-point plan for minimising holiday risks

Simon Calder
Travel Correspondent
5 hours ago
10
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<p>A helicopter on its way to a wildfire on Rhodes earlier this week</p>
A helicopter on its way to a wildfire on Rhodes earlier this week

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This week the term “Mediterranean island escape” acquired a new meaning. Wildfires swept across part of the isle of Rhodes, triggering the evacuation of thousands of tourists.

Package holidays to the Greek island are resuming this weekend. But with fire risks also high in other parts of Greece and elsewhere around the Mediterranean, prospective holidaymakers are increasingly concerned about their rights.

The Greek authorities, holiday companies and the UK Foreign Office also face difficult questions about their response to the emergency.

This seven-point plan shows how the travel industry, holidaymakers and government need urgently to change in response to the increase in extreme weather and other dangers.

Destination choices
RECOMMENDED
Rhodes holidaymaker says tour operator Tui urged to ignore evacuation order
What are the rules for items brought in from the EU?
Tourists flying into Greece inferno reveal why they refuse to cancel holiday
British travellers must reappraise ther travel priorities – and recognise that keeping doing what they have always done, summer after summer, is not necessarily the correct answer.

Extreme heat appears to be becoming a feature of some Mediterranean countries, especially in July and August. If temperatures are to continue to rise, then it is beholden on the traveller to ask themselves whether a more northerly destination might be more appropriate and less environmentally damaging.

British seaside resorts, nearby overseas nations including Ireland, Belgium and the Netherlands, or the Baltic coast of Poland are unlikely to see 40C-plus temperatures.

Curiously, weather-informed choice already happens in the reverse direction. UK holidaymakers are famously responsive to wet British summers, with tour operators observing sharp increases in overseas holidays for the following summer.

Upfront risk assessments
Tragedy inevitably accompanies mass tourism. But risks can be minimised. Prospective holidaymakers should conduct their own research about potential dangers. Road accidents and drownings account for most deaths of British tourists abroad, but threats posed by wildfires, natural disasters and terrorism must also be taken into account.

Holiday companies must be upfront and transparent at the point of booking about risks – whether climatic, tectonic or political – and explain how they manage those dangers.

Watching briefs
Accounts from holidaymakers caught up in the Rhodes wildfires repeatedly indicate that the threat posed by nearby wildfires was ignored until almost too late.

When honeymooners newly arrived at the airport are put on a coach and driven straight to a school-turned-crisis-centre to sleep on the floor for several nights, as happened in Rhodes, something has gone badly wrong.

Local authorities should be active, not passive, in identifying potential risks. The Greek emergency authorities have performed heroically this week, but could the “evacuate” button have been pressed earlier?

While tourism is often the sole economic function of many resorts, hoping bad news will go away is not a viable strategy.

Travel firms need eyes on the ground, too: the traditional holiday rep should fulfil this role, and report immediately to HQ should smoke start rising in the sky above the resort.

Evacuation plans
Holidaymakers flying to the deep south of Europe by air were all given a meticulous briefing about how to leave the aircraft in an emergency. Yet when an actual emergency befell them at their hotels in parts of Rhodes, there appears to have been precious little planning or foresight.

In areas at risk from wildfires, earthquakes and other natural disasters, hotel guests deserve briefings on the emergency evacuation plan. This would also have the merit of making properties come up with a plausible plan, even if it is only: “Head for the beach – and leave your luggage behind.”

Cancel culture
The Rhodes crisis swiftly acquired a British political dimension, with opposition politicians urging the government to add Rhodes to the “no-go” list in order to allow people with bookings for the island to cancel without penalty.

The Lib Dems’ foreign affairs spokesperson, Layla Moran, said: “As wildfires blaze and thousands are evacuated, it is staggering that the Foreign Office travel guidance for Rhodes does not advise against all but essential travel.”

Families who booked holidays in late July chose to do so at the summer peak of temperatures. If a holiday company can deliver a safe and enjoyable holiday, there is no reason to cancel. At the risk of sounding harsh, holiday companies can fairly respond: you wanted hot and sunny, and we will deliver the experience you ordered.

Foreign affairs
During the Covid pandemic, the UK Foreign Office chose to trash its hard-won reputation for reliable travel advice by aligning its threat assessment to the government’s now-discredited “traffic-light” scheme of perceived Covid risks. At one point peaceful Portugal carried the same danger rating as parts of Somalia and the Afghan capital, Kabul.

Given such official idiocy, it is unsurprising that people with bookings to Rhodes who are having second thoughts are seizing on the prospect of a get-out-of-jail-free card in the shape of a government “no-go” rating for the island. It would then allow them to cancel for a full refund.

The Foreign Office should ignore all calls – whether from No 10 or political opponents – to act as a provider of holiday sick-notes, and get back to the basic principles of risk assessment.

RECOMMENDED
Greece wildfires: Is it safe to travel to Corfu, Zante and Rhodes right now?
Summer holidays to fire-hit Rhodes on sale for just £295
Simon Calder’s latest advice on travel to Greece as wildfires continue to rage
No-blame investigations
One reason aviation has achieved astonishing levels of safety is by learning, openly and transparently, from previous tragedies. We need a forum for investigation into large-scale holiday traumas that learns lessons rather than apportions blame. Travel is a joy that needs to be protected – along with the lives of travellers.

[Isildur]

Τα πας υπέροχα ρε*, τι λίστα και μαλακίες, και για τους δρόμους που λες πάλι δίκαιο έχεις, μας έβαλε ο Σύριζα το μπιστόλι στο κρόταφο, δεν μπορούσαμε να κάνουμε αλλιώς, ο Πολάκης καπνίζει, τα γνωστά.


*μόνον μην είμαστε τόσο ανάλγητοι και σχληροί (και σχίσουμε τπτ ) , τι άλλο να κάνει για εμάς ο κύριος πρωθυπουργός;

Να ρωτήσω μόνο, θυμάσαι ότι τους ψήφισα, ε; Απλά λέω...

Ναι, αναγκάστηκες, είχες το μπιστόλι στο κρόταφο, τι να έκανες.

Άλλο λέω, αλλά δεν γαμείς; Ας πούμε ότι δεν κατάλαβες...

[nyxtovios]

Οι Τουρκοι πανηγυριζουν απεναντι... Οι Ελληνες δεν εχουν πια οπλα για τα F16 toyz

Άχρηστοι είναι κι αυτοί. Ευτυχώς που είναι κι αυτοί μαλάκες, γιατί αν ήταν τίποτα ικανοί, θα μας είχαν ξανακάνει οθωμανική επαρχία. Σ' αυτά τα χάλια είμαστε, και κάθονται, μόνο μπλα μπλά.

Γιατί ας πούμε ήμαστε από πάντα πιο κοντά στους ευρωπαίους από ότι στους τουρκαλβανούς.

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Καυλώνεις φίλε;

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Καυλώνεις φίλε;

βγηκες απ το ιδρυμα?

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Καυλώνεις φίλε;

βγηκες απ το ιδρυμα?

Μιλάς εσύ για ίδρυμα ρε προβληματικέ;

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Καυλώνεις φίλε;

βγηκες απ το ιδρυμα?

Μιλάς εσύ για ίδρυμα ρε προβληματικέ;

καλο σφουγγαρισμα μικρε μου φιλε

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Βλακείες αναπαράγεις.
https://www.fireservice.gr/el/stoicheia-symbanton
2008: 11908
2010: 8179
2012: 10263
2014: 6834
2016: 10263
2018: 8006
2020: 11799

Είναι από 19 έως και τις 33 τη μέρα. Και αυτές αφορούν όλο το χρόνο. Το 66 την ημέρα το καλοκαίρι δεν είναι κάτι σπάνιο. Εκτός αν πιστεύεις ότι οι αγροτοδασικές εκτάσεις δεν έχουν Γκαουσιανή κατανομή. Οπότε θα σε αφήσω διότι δεν έχω χρόνο να εξηγώ τα απλά και βασικά.

Αλήθεια αυτοί οι λογαριασμοί ανήκουν σε πραγματικά πρόσωπα ή είναι σαν τους δημοσιογράφους του protagon;

Είσαι κάθε μέρα βλάκας ή παίρνεις και κάνα ρεπο;

Σε ξεφτίλισα αρχιψέκ και μιλάς κιόλας. Αντί να βγάλεις το σκάσμό και να αντιληφθείς ότι γράφεις βλακείες με αποδείξεις, βγάζεις γλώσσα.
Ψεκασμένε.

[Λίνο Βεντούρα]

Άρθρο του Independent για το πώς βλέπουν οι ξένοι τις πυρκαγιές στην Μεσόγειο.

Spoiler

Simon Calder: What the Rhodes wildfire crisis has taught us about holiday risks
A seven-point plan for minimising holiday risks

Simon Calder
Travel Correspondent
5 hours ago
10
Comments

<p>A helicopter on its way to a wildfire on Rhodes earlier this week</p>
A helicopter on its way to a wildfire on Rhodes earlier this week

(AFP )
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This week the term “Mediterranean island escape” acquired a new meaning. Wildfires swept across part of the isle of Rhodes, triggering the evacuation of thousands of tourists.

Package holidays to the Greek island are resuming this weekend. But with fire risks also high in other parts of Greece and elsewhere around the Mediterranean, prospective holidaymakers are increasingly concerned about their rights.

The Greek authorities, holiday companies and the UK Foreign Office also face difficult questions about their response to the emergency.

This seven-point plan shows how the travel industry, holidaymakers and government need urgently to change in response to the increase in extreme weather and other dangers.

Destination choices
RECOMMENDED
Rhodes holidaymaker says tour operator Tui urged to ignore evacuation order
What are the rules for items brought in from the EU?
Tourists flying into Greece inferno reveal why they refuse to cancel holiday
British travellers must reappraise ther travel priorities – and recognise that keeping doing what they have always done, summer after summer, is not necessarily the correct answer.

Extreme heat appears to be becoming a feature of some Mediterranean countries, especially in July and August. If temperatures are to continue to rise, then it is beholden on the traveller to ask themselves whether a more northerly destination might be more appropriate and less environmentally damaging.

British seaside resorts, nearby overseas nations including Ireland, Belgium and the Netherlands, or the Baltic coast of Poland are unlikely to see 40C-plus temperatures.

Curiously, weather-informed choice already happens in the reverse direction. UK holidaymakers are famously responsive to wet British summers, with tour operators observing sharp increases in overseas holidays for the following summer.

Upfront risk assessments
Tragedy inevitably accompanies mass tourism. But risks can be minimised. Prospective holidaymakers should conduct their own research about potential dangers. Road accidents and drownings account for most deaths of British tourists abroad, but threats posed by wildfires, natural disasters and terrorism must also be taken into account.

Holiday companies must be upfront and transparent at the point of booking about risks – whether climatic, tectonic or political – and explain how they manage those dangers.

Watching briefs
Accounts from holidaymakers caught up in the Rhodes wildfires repeatedly indicate that the threat posed by nearby wildfires was ignored until almost too late.

When honeymooners newly arrived at the airport are put on a coach and driven straight to a school-turned-crisis-centre to sleep on the floor for several nights, as happened in Rhodes, something has gone badly wrong.

Local authorities should be active, not passive, in identifying potential risks. The Greek emergency authorities have performed heroically this week, but could the “evacuate” button have been pressed earlier?

While tourism is often the sole economic function of many resorts, hoping bad news will go away is not a viable strategy.

Travel firms need eyes on the ground, too: the traditional holiday rep should fulfil this role, and report immediately to HQ should smoke start rising in the sky above the resort.

Evacuation plans
Holidaymakers flying to the deep south of Europe by air were all given a meticulous briefing about how to leave the aircraft in an emergency. Yet when an actual emergency befell them at their hotels in parts of Rhodes, there appears to have been precious little planning or foresight.

In areas at risk from wildfires, earthquakes and other natural disasters, hotel guests deserve briefings on the emergency evacuation plan. This would also have the merit of making properties come up with a plausible plan, even if it is only: “Head for the beach – and leave your luggage behind.”

Cancel culture
The Rhodes crisis swiftly acquired a British political dimension, with opposition politicians urging the government to add Rhodes to the “no-go” list in order to allow people with bookings for the island to cancel without penalty.

The Lib Dems’ foreign affairs spokesperson, Layla Moran, said: “As wildfires blaze and thousands are evacuated, it is staggering that the Foreign Office travel guidance for Rhodes does not advise against all but essential travel.”

Families who booked holidays in late July chose to do so at the summer peak of temperatures. If a holiday company can deliver a safe and enjoyable holiday, there is no reason to cancel. At the risk of sounding harsh, holiday companies can fairly respond: you wanted hot and sunny, and we will deliver the experience you ordered.

Foreign affairs
During the Covid pandemic, the UK Foreign Office chose to trash its hard-won reputation for reliable travel advice by aligning its threat assessment to the government’s now-discredited “traffic-light” scheme of perceived Covid risks. At one point peaceful Portugal carried the same danger rating as parts of Somalia and the Afghan capital, Kabul.

Given such official idiocy, it is unsurprising that people with bookings to Rhodes who are having second thoughts are seizing on the prospect of a get-out-of-jail-free card in the shape of a government “no-go” rating for the island. It would then allow them to cancel for a full refund.

The Foreign Office should ignore all calls – whether from No 10 or political opponents – to act as a provider of holiday sick-notes, and get back to the basic principles of risk assessment.

RECOMMENDED
Greece wildfires: Is it safe to travel to Corfu, Zante and Rhodes right now?
Summer holidays to fire-hit Rhodes on sale for just £295
Simon Calder’s latest advice on travel to Greece as wildfires continue to rage
No-blame investigations
One reason aviation has achieved astonishing levels of safety is by learning, openly and transparently, from previous tragedies. We need a forum for investigation into large-scale holiday traumas that learns lessons rather than apportions blame. Travel is a joy that needs to be protected – along with the lives of travellers.

Πόνεσαν τα μυαλά μου από τις μαλακίες

[OANNHSEA]

Όπως βλέπετε παντού καίγονται πεύκα...
Όταν σας γράφω ότι είναι σχέδιο κανονικό για να παίζουν με την ικανότητα κατασκευής και πώλησης σπιτιών εδώ και πάνω από 50 χρόνια, εσείς λέτε ότι είμαι ψεκ...
Ποιός λογικός πολιτικός θα άφηνε να αναπτυχθεί σαν τρελή η επόμενη φωτιά και δεν θα έπαιρνε ριζικά μέτρα για να το αποτρέψει;
Ή αυτό ή αλλιώς πρέπει να παραδεχτείτε ότι εδώ και 50 χρόνιας ψηφίζετε ότι σκατό υπάρχει στην Ελλάδα για να μπει στη βουλή!!!

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[Ένοπλος σοσιαλμπαχαλάκης]

Εντωμεταξύ έχουν λιώσει οι φαντάροι μέσα στον καύσωνα να γλυφουν στρατόπεδα, για να πουλήσει εκ των υστέρων μαγκιά ο χαρδαλιας. Κατάντια.