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Διετέλεσα και ίλαρχος εν υπηρεσία (όχι ως αξίωμα) κατά την πολύμηνη απουσία του ιλάρχου και με απευθείας διαταγή του ιλάρχου κατά "παράβαση" της ιεραρχίας (υπήρχε ήδη υπίλαρχος στην ίλη). Η διαχείριση της ίλης είναι μία ...τρομακτική εμπειρία και πραγματικά σέβομαι τους ανθρώπους που αναλαμβάνουν τέτοιες θέσεις. Οι ίλαρχοι που γνώρισα ήταν εξαιρετικά άτομα.

Τι διαβαζουμε εδω μεσα ωρε; :smt005: :smt005: :smt005:
Δηλαδη απουσιαζε ο Ιλαρχος και επειδη σε γουσταρε,παρεκαμψε την ιεραρχια (ξεφτιλισε δηλαδη τον Υπιλαρχο,δεν ξερω αν υπηρχε και Ανθυπιλαρχος να τον ξεφτιλισει και αυτον :smt005: ) και τοποθετησε εναν δοκιμο-εσενα δηλαδη-ως δκτη Ιλης!!!
Τι ειναι ο στρατος ρε,κανενα κωλοχανειο να κανει ο καθε αξιωματικος οτι του γουσταρει;
Και ο δκτς της επιλαρχιας (αντισυνταγματαρχης) το δεχτηκε μετα χαρας να υποθεσω; :smt005: :smt005: :smt005:
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stavmanr έγραψε: 30 Μαρ 2022, 18:14
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Ακόμη κι αν δεχτώ ότι το 2003 υπήρχε μία διαφορά μεταξύ ΙΡΑΚ και Ουκρανίας [...]
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Το πιο αστείο είναι ότι εδώ κι ένα μήνα θεωρούσατε ότι η Ουκρανία θα πέσει σε τρεις μέρες...
Τώρα προσπαθείτε να βγάλετε τον ουκρανικό στρατό ως αξιόμαχο απέναντι στη Ρωσία.
Κάθε φορά προσαρμόζεστε στην αποτυχία με θαυμαστή ακρίβεια...

Εξελικτική της αποτυχίας κατά μία έννοια. :smt047
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Russia has effectively admitted defeat In Ukraine
The aim now is regime survival.


Justin Bronk
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Published On 30 Mar 2022
30 Mar 2022

On March 25, the Russian Ministry of Defence announced that the “first phase” of the invasion of Ukraine was over. A mere month earlier, President Vladimir Putin had vowed to completely destroy Ukraine’s military capabilities and to replace the Ukrainian government, which he claimed without any evidence was a neo-Nazi junta planning to commit “genocide” in Donbas.

To that end, on February 24 the Russian army and airborne forces attempted a lightning assault on Kyiv, and simultaneously launched offensives against Kharkiv, Sumy, Chernihiv, Kherson, Melitopol, Mariupol and on the line of contact in the Donbas region. The subsequent month of unexpectedly vicious high-intensity combat has seen Russian forces fail to take all the cities, with the exception of the smaller southern cities of Kherson and Melitopol, which fell in the first days. In return, the Russian army has taken extremely heavy losses; between 7,000 and 15,000 personnel killed and more than 2,000 vehicles visually confirmed as destroyed or captured.


The new announcement by the Russian government is a direct response to these failures. It is an admission that, at least for now, Russia cannot return Ukraine to its control by force. Instead of regime change (“denazification” according to Russia), the new claim is that Russia’s goal is a more limited focus on taking territory and destroying Ukrainian forces in the Donbas.

This is a serious crisis for President Putin’s regime. To justify the “special military operation” against Ukraine, he has used extreme rhetoric and baseless claims of neo-Nazism and genocide in Ukraine for months. Since the invasion began, ordinary Russians have been presented with a barrage of “Z”-themed pro-war propaganda, patriotic speeches and rallies designed to stir patriotic fervour.

During the first few days, when Russian leaders still assumed they would quickly defeat Ukraine, Russian state media carried pronouncements that President Putin’s invasion had reshaped the world order and put an end to both the “Ukraine question” and a unipolar United States-led, NATO dominated world. Perhaps even more importantly, Russia’s military power and history – both conventional and nuclear – are a cornerstone of national identity and national pride, and Russians have long looked down culturally and politically on Ukraine and Ukrainians. All of this makes the current situation extremely difficult for the Russian government to explain to its people.

In the information climate carefully created by the Russian government for its people, how could the mighty Russian military have failed to destroy the much weaker Ukrainian army? How can a supposedly high-tech “special military operation” that would be conducted in a short time by elite forces have led to tens of thousands of dead, wounded and captured Russian troops and more than 2,000 destroyed Russian vehicles? How is it that the Ukrainian people – supposedly being oppressed by an unpopular neo-Nazi junta imposed by shadowy hostile Western forces – are now fighting with fierce anger and almost total national unity against their Russian “liberators”? Most of all, how can the Russian government – supposedly a nuclear superpower, and the self-proclaimed heir of the victory over Nazi Germany in 1945 – make a ceasefire deal that leaves the supposedly “genocidal”, “neo-Nazi” Ukrainian government in power? By creating a narrative justification for the invasion that was completely divorced from reality, the Russian government has created a situation where almost any possible outcome to the war now will be extremely hard to justify to its own people.

Russia needs a ceasefire soon, however, because the current rate of equipment and personnel losses is not sustainable, and in any case, they are making little meaningful progress except in the east. In fact, in the past week, Ukraine has retaken significant territory around Mykolaiv and Kherson in the southwest, around Irpin and Makariv to the west of Kyiv and Trostyanets to the east of Kyiv. With each passing day, the Ukrainian hand in the ongoing ceasefire negotiations becomes stronger rather than weaker.

In this context, the Russian announcement of a new phase of the war that will focus on the Donbas has two purposes. Firstly, it represents a pragmatic military strategy. The Donbas is the part of Ukraine where Russian forces stand the best chance of achieving major military successes – they are attempting to concentrate sufficient forces to break the Ukrainian defence line along the Donets River and have gained important ground around Izyum in the past week. It makes sense to prioritise overstretched forces where they have the best chance of achieving tangible results, which will improve their bargaining position in ceasefire talks. Secondly, this is the start of an effort to moderate the expectations created by the completely unrealistic view of the war that the Russian government has fed its people.

Despite this, some in the Russian government seem to find it hard to accept these reduced ambitions and the reality that they imply. On March 27, the propagandist known as “Putin’s mouthpiece”, Dmitry Kiselyov, stated on Russian television that “Russia will never cede Ukraine to anyone … it has to be part of Russia, even against Ukraine’s own will. :o :o ” Furthermore, Russia continues to conduct missile strikes throughout Ukraine including in Lviv in the west, and is finding it difficult to disengage its forces around Kyiv, Kharkiv, Sumy and Kherson due to strong Ukrainian counterattacks. Therefore, while a new phase of the invasion has been announced, it remains to be seen if Russia can successfully focus on the Donbas as stated. https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022 ... in-ukraine
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Πρετεντέρης έγραψε: 30 Μαρ 2022, 20:09 Ενδιαφέρον:
Russia has effectively admitted defeat In Ukraine
The aim now is regime survival.


Justin Bronk
Justin Bronk
Senior research fellow in military sciences at the Royal United Services Institute in London.
Published On 30 Mar 2022
30 Mar 2022

On March 25, the Russian Ministry of Defence announced that the “first phase” of the invasion of Ukraine was over. A mere month earlier, President Vladimir Putin had vowed to completely destroy Ukraine’s military capabilities and to replace the Ukrainian government, which he claimed without any evidence was a neo-Nazi junta planning to commit “genocide” in Donbas.

To that end, on February 24 the Russian army and airborne forces attempted a lightning assault on Kyiv, and simultaneously launched offensives against Kharkiv, Sumy, Chernihiv, Kherson, Melitopol, Mariupol and on the line of contact in the Donbas region. The subsequent month of unexpectedly vicious high-intensity combat has seen Russian forces fail to take all the cities, with the exception of the smaller southern cities of Kherson and Melitopol, which fell in the first days. In return, the Russian army has taken extremely heavy losses; between 7,000 and 15,000 personnel killed and more than 2,000 vehicles visually confirmed as destroyed or captured.


The new announcement by the Russian government is a direct response to these failures. It is an admission that, at least for now, Russia cannot return Ukraine to its control by force. Instead of regime change (“denazification” according to Russia), the new claim is that Russia’s goal is a more limited focus on taking territory and destroying Ukrainian forces in the Donbas.

This is a serious crisis for President Putin’s regime. To justify the “special military operation” against Ukraine, he has used extreme rhetoric and baseless claims of neo-Nazism and genocide in Ukraine for months. Since the invasion began, ordinary Russians have been presented with a barrage of “Z”-themed pro-war propaganda, patriotic speeches and rallies designed to stir patriotic fervour.

During the first few days, when Russian leaders still assumed they would quickly defeat Ukraine, Russian state media carried pronouncements that President Putin’s invasion had reshaped the world order and put an end to both the “Ukraine question” and a unipolar United States-led, NATO dominated world. Perhaps even more importantly, Russia’s military power and history – both conventional and nuclear – are a cornerstone of national identity and national pride, and Russians have long looked down culturally and politically on Ukraine and Ukrainians. All of this makes the current situation extremely difficult for the Russian government to explain to its people.

In the information climate carefully created by the Russian government for its people, how could the mighty Russian military have failed to destroy the much weaker Ukrainian army? How can a supposedly high-tech “special military operation” that would be conducted in a short time by elite forces have led to tens of thousands of dead, wounded and captured Russian troops and more than 2,000 destroyed Russian vehicles? How is it that the Ukrainian people – supposedly being oppressed by an unpopular neo-Nazi junta imposed by shadowy hostile Western forces – are now fighting with fierce anger and almost total national unity against their Russian “liberators”? Most of all, how can the Russian government – supposedly a nuclear superpower, and the self-proclaimed heir of the victory over Nazi Germany in 1945 – make a ceasefire deal that leaves the supposedly “genocidal”, “neo-Nazi” Ukrainian government in power? By creating a narrative justification for the invasion that was completely divorced from reality, the Russian government has created a situation where almost any possible outcome to the war now will be extremely hard to justify to its own people.

Russia needs a ceasefire soon, however, because the current rate of equipment and personnel losses is not sustainable, and in any case, they are making little meaningful progress except in the east. In fact, in the past week, Ukraine has retaken significant territory around Mykolaiv and Kherson in the southwest, around Irpin and Makariv to the west of Kyiv and Trostyanets to the east of Kyiv. With each passing day, the Ukrainian hand in the ongoing ceasefire negotiations becomes stronger rather than weaker.

In this context, the Russian announcement of a new phase of the war that will focus on the Donbas has two purposes. Firstly, it represents a pragmatic military strategy. The Donbas is the part of Ukraine where Russian forces stand the best chance of achieving major military successes – they are attempting to concentrate sufficient forces to break the Ukrainian defence line along the Donets River and have gained important ground around Izyum in the past week. It makes sense to prioritise overstretched forces where they have the best chance of achieving tangible results, which will improve their bargaining position in ceasefire talks. Secondly, this is the start of an effort to moderate the expectations created by the completely unrealistic view of the war that the Russian government has fed its people.

Despite this, some in the Russian government seem to find it hard to accept these reduced ambitions and the reality that they imply. On March 27, the propagandist known as “Putin’s mouthpiece”, Dmitry Kiselyov, stated on Russian television that “Russia will never cede Ukraine to anyone … it has to be part of Russia, even against Ukraine’s own will. :o :o ” Furthermore, Russia continues to conduct missile strikes throughout Ukraine including in Lviv in the west, and is finding it difficult to disengage its forces around Kyiv, Kharkiv, Sumy and Kherson due to strong Ukrainian counterattacks. Therefore, while a new phase of the invasion has been announced, it remains to be seen if Russia can successfully focus on the Donbas as stated. https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022 ... in-ukraine
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Russia has effectively admitted defeat In Ukraine
The aim now is regime survival.


Justin Bronk
Justin Bronk
Senior research fellow in military sciences at the Royal United Services Institute in London.
Published On 30 Mar 2022
30 Mar 2022

On March 25, the Russian Ministry of Defence announced that the “first phase” of the invasion of Ukraine was over. A mere month earlier, President Vladimir Putin had vowed to completely destroy Ukraine’s military capabilities and to replace the Ukrainian government, which he claimed without any evidence was a neo-Nazi junta planning to commit “genocide” in Donbas.

To that end, on February 24 the Russian army and airborne forces attempted a lightning assault on Kyiv, and simultaneously launched offensives against Kharkiv, Sumy, Chernihiv, Kherson, Melitopol, Mariupol and on the line of contact in the Donbas region. The subsequent month of unexpectedly vicious high-intensity combat has seen Russian forces fail to take all the cities, with the exception of the smaller southern cities of Kherson and Melitopol, which fell in the first days. In return, the Russian army has taken extremely heavy losses; between 7,000 and 15,000 personnel killed and more than 2,000 vehicles visually confirmed as destroyed or captured.


The new announcement by the Russian government is a direct response to these failures. It is an admission that, at least for now, Russia cannot return Ukraine to its control by force. Instead of regime change (“denazification” according to Russia), the new claim is that Russia’s goal is a more limited focus on taking territory and destroying Ukrainian forces in the Donbas.

This is a serious crisis for President Putin’s regime. To justify the “special military operation” against Ukraine, he has used extreme rhetoric and baseless claims of neo-Nazism and genocide in Ukraine for months. Since the invasion began, ordinary Russians have been presented with a barrage of “Z”-themed pro-war propaganda, patriotic speeches and rallies designed to stir patriotic fervour.

During the first few days, when Russian leaders still assumed they would quickly defeat Ukraine, Russian state media carried pronouncements that President Putin’s invasion had reshaped the world order and put an end to both the “Ukraine question” and a unipolar United States-led, NATO dominated world. Perhaps even more importantly, Russia’s military power and history – both conventional and nuclear – are a cornerstone of national identity and national pride, and Russians have long looked down culturally and politically on Ukraine and Ukrainians. All of this makes the current situation extremely difficult for the Russian government to explain to its people.

In the information climate carefully created by the Russian government for its people, how could the mighty Russian military have failed to destroy the much weaker Ukrainian army? How can a supposedly high-tech “special military operation” that would be conducted in a short time by elite forces have led to tens of thousands of dead, wounded and captured Russian troops and more than 2,000 destroyed Russian vehicles? How is it that the Ukrainian people – supposedly being oppressed by an unpopular neo-Nazi junta imposed by shadowy hostile Western forces – are now fighting with fierce anger and almost total national unity against their Russian “liberators”? Most of all, how can the Russian government – supposedly a nuclear superpower, and the self-proclaimed heir of the victory over Nazi Germany in 1945 – make a ceasefire deal that leaves the supposedly “genocidal”, “neo-Nazi” Ukrainian government in power? By creating a narrative justification for the invasion that was completely divorced from reality, the Russian government has created a situation where almost any possible outcome to the war now will be extremely hard to justify to its own people.

Russia needs a ceasefire soon, however, because the current rate of equipment and personnel losses is not sustainable, and in any case, they are making little meaningful progress except in the east. In fact, in the past week, Ukraine has retaken significant territory around Mykolaiv and Kherson in the southwest, around Irpin and Makariv to the west of Kyiv and Trostyanets to the east of Kyiv. With each passing day, the Ukrainian hand in the ongoing ceasefire negotiations becomes stronger rather than weaker.

In this context, the Russian announcement of a new phase of the war that will focus on the Donbas has two purposes. Firstly, it represents a pragmatic military strategy. The Donbas is the part of Ukraine where Russian forces stand the best chance of achieving major military successes – they are attempting to concentrate sufficient forces to break the Ukrainian defence line along the Donets River and have gained important ground around Izyum in the past week. It makes sense to prioritise overstretched forces where they have the best chance of achieving tangible results, which will improve their bargaining position in ceasefire talks. Secondly, this is the start of an effort to moderate the expectations created by the completely unrealistic view of the war that the Russian government has fed its people.

Despite this, some in the Russian government seem to find it hard to accept these reduced ambitions and the reality that they imply. On March 27, the propagandist known as “Putin’s mouthpiece”, Dmitry Kiselyov, stated on Russian television that “Russia will never cede Ukraine to anyone … it has to be part of Russia, even against Ukraine’s own will. :o :o ” Furthermore, Russia continues to conduct missile strikes throughout Ukraine including in Lviv in the west, and is finding it difficult to disengage its forces around Kyiv, Kharkiv, Sumy and Kherson due to strong Ukrainian counterattacks. Therefore, while a new phase of the invasion has been announced, it remains to be seen if Russia can successfully focus on the Donbas as stated. https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022 ... in-ukraine
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Καθόλου τρομακτικό που περιορίζει την ΑΟΖ της Ουκρανίας στο 1/5.

Μέχρι να καταληφθούν Νικολάεφ και Οδησσός βέβαια.
Для пользы дела мне необходимы военные полномочия. В таком случае я буду сам, без формальностей свергать тех командармов и комиссаров, которые губят дело. Так мне подсказывают интересы дела, и, конечно, отсутствие бумажки от Троцкого меня не остановит.
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ΜπλεΜπουμπυς έγραψε: 30 Μαρ 2022, 20:29 Τάγμα Αζόφ στη Μαριούπολη τέλος!
Πήγαν να βρουν τους παππούδες τους.
Και κλάμα οι δικαιωματικοί, οι φιλελε η νατοικη αναρχία και οι συριζαίοι/ες "δημοκράτες".

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Αυτός ο ασπρογένης είναι ο στρατηγός που σκοτώσανε οι Ουκρανοί την πρώτη μέρα?
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ΜπλεΜπουμπυς έγραψε: 30 Μαρ 2022, 20:29 Τάγμα Αζόφ στη Μαριούπολη τέλος!
Πήγαν να βρουν τους παππούδες τους.
Και κλάμα οι δικαιωματικοί, οι φιλελε η νατοικη αναρχία και οι συριζαίοι/ες "δημοκράτες".

https://www.facebook.com/representative ... 531641138/
Αυτός ο ασπρογένης είναι ο στρατηγός που σκοτώσανε οι Ουκρανοί την πρώτη μέρα?
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Aprilianos έγραψε: 30 Μαρ 2022, 20:34 Ναι έχει πάρει μια έκταση οσο η Αγγλία και χάνει. Πολύ έξυπνο :lol:
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stergiosbik έγραψε: 30 Μαρ 2022, 18:33
stavmanr έγραψε: 30 Μαρ 2022, 17:37 Διετέλεσα και ίλαρχος εν υπηρεσία (όχι ως αξίωμα) κατά την πολύμηνη απουσία του ιλάρχου και με απευθείας διαταγή του ιλάρχου κατά "παράβαση" της ιεραρχίας (υπήρχε ήδη υπίλαρχος στην ίλη). Η διαχείριση της ίλης είναι μία ...τρομακτική εμπειρία και πραγματικά σέβομαι τους ανθρώπους που αναλαμβάνουν τέτοιες θέσεις. Οι ίλαρχοι που γνώρισα ήταν εξαιρετικά άτομα.
Δηλαδη απουσιαζε ο Ιλαρχος και επειδη σε γουσταρε,παρεκαμψε την ιεραρχια (ξεφτιλισε δηλαδη τον Υπιλαρχο,δεν ξερω αν υπηρχε και Ανθυπιλαρχος να τον ξεφτιλισει και αυτον :smt005: ) και τοποθετησε εναν δοκιμο-εσενα δηλαδη-ως δκτη Ιλης!!!
Ο υπίλαρχος ήταν ειδική περίπτωση. Κυριολεκτικά.
Απορώ πως επιβίωσε στα τεθωρακισμένα για τόσο διάστημα (να' ναι καλά ο άνθρωπος) χωρίς να σκοτωθεί σε ατύχημα.
Είχε κάψει ένα τζιπ και είχε κάτι άλλα ψιλοατυχήματα. :003:
Γενικά, είχα πέσει σε φουρνιά ότι να' ναι αξιωματικών.
Τι ειναι ο στρατος ρε,κανενα κωλοχανειο να κανει ο καθε αξιωματικος οτι του γουσταρει;
Υπάρχει ο άτυπος κανόνας της ιεραρχίας μεν, αλλά παρακάμπτεται δε ανάλογα με τις περιστάσεις.
Αυτό που ενδιαφέρει τον κάθε διοικητή (μονάδας, ίλης κλπ) είναι να έχει άτομα της εμπιστοσύνης του, ώστε να μην κινδυνεύσει ο ίδιος να περάσει στρατοδικείο από μία ανοησία του ιλάρχου.
Και ο δκτς της επιλαρχιας (αντισυνταγματαρχης) το δεχτηκε μετα χαρας να υποθεσω;
Ναι. Ο ίδιος άλλωστε είχε δώσει εντολή σε συγκέντρωση αξιωματικών: "στις ασκήσεις πηγαίνει αυτός (εγώ) ως ουλαμαγός και τους υπόλοιπους τους διαλέγετε".
Μη σου φαίνεται περίεργο.

Γενικά χαλαρώστε. Τα πράγματα δεν είναι όπως φαντάζεστε. Πχ. φαντάζεστε ότι ένας ανθυπολοχαγός κάνει κουμάντο σε ένα ρωσικό ουλαμό αρμάτων, αλλά θα σοκαριστείτε αν μάθετε ότι ο διοικητής τους μπορεί να χρησιμοποιεί μέχρι και έμπειρους λοχίες στο κουμάντο, αντί των ανθυπολοχαγών. Όταν σφίγγουν τα ζόρια, χρειάζεσαι έμπειρο, γνώστη, όχι σαρδέλες και αστέρια. Ο ανθυπολοχαγός μόλις έχει βγει από τη σχολή του. Ανεβαίνει στο άρμα και νομίζεις ότι θα πέσει. Ο επιλοχίας έχει από πενταετή ως δεκαπενταετή πείρα στο άρμα και το γνωρίζει απ' έξω με όλα του τα κουσούρια κι όλες τις περιέργειές του.

Χαλαρά. Όπως έγραψα και πριν, το ότι διατέλεσα ίλαρχος ως αναπληρωτής για ένα διάστημα δεν με κάνει ειδικό στο νήμα. :wave:
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