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εξελίξεις στην Ουκρανία
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Re: εξελίξεις στην Ουκρανία
Zelda έγραψε: 17 Ιαν 2022, 16:28 Οι επιλογες της Ρωσιας σε περιπτωση μεγάλης εισβολής
Αρκετά δυσκολη επιχείρηση αν την αποφασίσουν
https://www.csis.org/analysis/russias-p ... on-ukraine
https://twitter.com/MarQs__/status/1480581682780684298
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Re: εξελίξεις στην Ουκρανία
θα ειδες φανταζομαι το αυριανο πρωτοσελιδο της dailymail ... 
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Re: εξελίξεις στην Ουκρανία
όχι, τι λέει?
Re: εξελίξεις στην Ουκρανία
Αγγλοι στρατιωτες στην Ουκρανια ... ειναι να μαζευουμε κονσερβες
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Re: εξελίξεις στην Ουκρανία
άδειασαν οι ρως την πρεσβεία στο κίεβο;
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/17/us/p ... bassy.htmlKYIV, Ukraine — The week before intensive diplomatic meetings began over the buildup of Russian troops on the Ukrainian border, American and Ukrainian officials watched from afar as Russia began emptying out its embassy in Kyiv, the Ukrainian capital.
On Jan. 5, 18 people — mostly the children and wives of Russian diplomats — boarded buses and embarked on a 15-hour drive home to Moscow, according to a senior Ukrainian security official.
About 30 more followed in the next few days, from Kyiv and a consulate in Lviv, in western Ukraine. Diplomats at two other Russian consulates have been told to prepare to leave Ukraine, the security official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss national security matters.
How to interpret the evacuation has become part of the mystery of divining the next play by President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia. Thinning out the Russian Embassy may be part propaganda, part preparation for a looming conflict or part feint, Ukrainian and U.S. officials say. It could be all three.
Russia’s Foreign Ministry said on Tuesday that its embassy in Kyiv was functioning normally despite what it said were threats against Russian diplomats and their families.
“Yet again, despite the provocations and the aggressive behavior of local radicals, I repeat that our missions are operating as usual,” the ministry’s spokeswoman, Maria V. Zakharova, told reporters.
In recent days, the slow departures — which the Russians most likely knew that the Americans and the Ukrainians would see — have become part of the puzzle of what happens next. They are a more ominous data point, in addition to cyberattacks on Ukrainian ministries last week, and reports from Microsoft and the U.S. government that far more destructive malware has been planted in Ukrainian networks but not activated.
Enormous train convoys loaded with tanks, missiles and troops continue to push west through Russia, apparently heading for the Ukrainian border. Aleksandr G. Lukashenko, the authoritarian leader of Belarus, announced on Monday that Russian forces and equipment had begun arriving in his country for a joint military exercise that would be held in two places: on Belarus’s western edge, near Poland and Lithuania, two NATO countries; and along the Ukrainian border, which could prove another pathway for invasion.
The exercise has been given a very American-sounding name: Allied Resolve. But in Kyiv, Ukrainian officials fully expect any Russian troops deployed to Belarus for the exercises to remain in place indefinitely, leaving Ukraine open to attack from the north, the east and the south.
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“We’ll be fully surrounded by equal forces,” the senior Ukrainian security official said.
In Washington, U.S. officials say they still assess that Mr. Putin has not yet made a decision to invade. They describe him as more a tactician than a grand strategist, and they believe that he is constantly weighing a host of different factors. Among them is how well he could weather the threatened sanctions on his banks and industry, and whether his demands that Ukraine stop veering toward NATO — and that NATO stop spreading toward Russia — are receiving enough attention.
But the U.S. officials say Mr. Putin may also have concluded that with the United States and other countries arming Ukraine, his military advantage is at risk of slipping away. Britain’s defense secretary, Ben Wallace, announced in an address to Parliament on Monday that the country would begin providing Ukraine with light, anti-armor defensive weapons. Mr. Putin may become tempted to act sooner rather than later.
U.S. officials saw Russia’s embassy evacuations coming. “We have information that indicates the Russian government was preparing to evacuate their family members from the Russian Embassy in Ukraine in late December and early January,” a U.S. official said in a statement.
Ukrainian officials say they saw the Russians leave.
But that leaves open the question of what, if anything, the Russians were signaling.
It is possible they were trying to bolster the case that the United States and its Western allies should take seriously their demands that Ukraine can never join NATO, and that troops, nuclear weapons and other heavy weaponry must be removed from former Warsaw Pact states, like Poland, that were once allied with the Soviet Union.
It could also be that the Russians were trying to indicate that an attack was brewing, though there were no other signals. In fact, the buildup of Russian troops on the Ukrainian border is not increasing at a rate that Pentagon officials expected a month ago.
The latest U.S. estimates are that about 60 battalion tactical groups, known as B.T.G.s and each with an average of 800 soldiers, are now in place at the border with Ukraine. Combined with other local forces, the Russians have about 77,000 troops at the border, with more on the way. Others put the figure at closer to 100,000 — much depends on how different forces are counted — but that is well short of the Pentagon’s estimate more than a month ago that the total number could rise to 175,000.
U.S. and European intelligence and military officials say Mr. Putin may be waiting for the ground to freeze, making it easier to get heavy equipment over the border. Or he may be building up slowly, for diplomatic advantage, as he awaits a written reply from the Biden administration and NATO to his demands that they roll back NATO’s military posture to what it was 15 years ago — much farther from Russia’s borders.
While U.S. officials still believe Mr. Putin is undecided about his next move, officials in Kyiv are assessing what an attack may look like, if it happens. It could come in the form of a full-on invasion, the Ukrainian security official said. Or Russia could launch a cyberattack on the Ukrainian energy grid — far larger than the ones conducted in 2015 and 2016 — combined with military escalation in Ukraine’s east, where Russian-backed separatist forces remain deeply entrenched.
No one but the leaders in the Kremlin seem to know for sure how the next days and weeks might play out.
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Re: εξελίξεις στην Ουκρανία
βρε βρε, να και το ανθρωπόλυμα.fr στην περιοχή
bhl @ ukraine

bhl @ ukraine
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@gov.gr : «You were given the choice between war and dishonour. You chose dishonour, and you will have war.»
@gov.gr : «You were given the choice between war and dishonour. You chose dishonour, and you will have war.»
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Re: εξελίξεις στην Ουκρανία
Η Ρωσία δεν κανει μπλιτζκριγκ, θα τους βράσει σα βατράχια.
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Re: εξελίξεις στην Ουκρανία
το Κίεβο φαίνεται να ανυπομονει να αρχίσουν εχθροπραξιες
https://twitter.com/DeanoBeano1/status/ ... 9652981765
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Re: εξελίξεις στην Ουκρανία
τα Globemaster πετάνε συνεχώς από ΗΒ και Ραμσταιν μεταφέροντας όπλα στην Ουκρανία.
https://t.co/eBM5bh6EYf https://twitter.com/thenewsbig_blog/sta ... 7223134208
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Re: εξελίξεις στην Ουκρανία
Άντε να τελειώσει το κράτος παρίας.
Η Νέα Ρωσία να προσαρτηθεί στην μαμά Ρωσία.
Φτάνει πια με Ουκρανούς νεοφασίστες.
Η Νέα Ρωσία να προσαρτηθεί στην μαμά Ρωσία.
Φτάνει πια με Ουκρανούς νεοφασίστες.
Для пользы дела мне необходимы военные полномочия. В таком случае я буду сам, без формальностей свергать тех командармов и комиссаров, которые губят дело. Так мне подсказывают интересы дела, и, конечно, отсутствие бумажки от Троцкого меня не остановит.
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