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δοκιμές εμβολίου στη Wuhan σε εθελοντές

108 people aged 18-60 from Wuhan have been injected with a potential vaccine developed by a Chinese pharmaceutical firm and the military
One says that by taking part she can ‘rise above the simple interests of a normal person for once’

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Δε θα ξεχάσουμε τα κινεζοφιλα σκυλιά
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βασικά πριν πάρετε εκδίκηση κάντε αντίσταση, πείτε όχι στην κινέζικη βοήθεια, πετάξτε τις κινέζικες μάσκες, περιμένετε να αγοράσετε ακριβά το αμερικάνικο εμβόλιο όταν βγει κ.λ.π.
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Πρωτα σου στελνουνε τον ιο, μετα μασκες...Αυτο δεν ξεχνιεται..
"Έκαστος τόπος έχει την πληγήν του: Η Αγγλία την ομίχλην, η Αίγυπτος τας οφθαλμίας, η Βλαχία τας ακρίδας και η Ελλάς τους Έλληνας".
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Northern Spirit έγραψε: 23 Μαρ 2020, 11:53 Πρωτα σου στελνουνε τον ιο, μετα μασκες...Αυτο δεν ξεχνιεται..
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μιλανε και οι νεοδημοκράτες ρε

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Μαυροβασίλης έγραψε: 23 Μαρ 2020, 00:06 να ξαναρωτήσω πόσοι απολογητές έχουν δουλέψει* μαζί τους;

* όχι έχω κουλ ατομάκι χιπστεροκινέζο στη δουλειά, εννοώ σοβαρά βέρια
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dna replication έγραψε: 23 Μαρ 2020, 11:51 βασικά πριν πάρετε εκδίκηση κάντε αντίσταση, πείτε όχι στην κινέζικη βοήθεια, πετάξτε τις κινέζικες μάσκες, περιμένετε να αγοράσετε ακριβά το αμερικάνικο εμβόλιο όταν βγει κ.λ.π.
Να σε κάψω Γιάννη μου, να σ' αλείψω λάδι.
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Kauldron έγραψε: 23 Μαρ 2020, 11:57
dna replication έγραψε: 23 Μαρ 2020, 11:51 βασικά πριν πάρετε εκδίκηση κάντε αντίσταση, πείτε όχι στην κινέζικη βοήθεια, πετάξτε τις κινέζικες μάσκες, περιμένετε να αγοράσετε ακριβά το αμερικάνικο εμβόλιο όταν βγει κ.λ.π.
Να σε κάψω Γιάννη μου, να σ' αλείψω λάδι.
Μάλλον δεν υπάρχει αυτή η παροιμία στα κινέζικα
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Kραξιμο απο Κινεζο πρωην στελεχος του κομματος προς την ηγεσια. Για να μην διακοψουνε τις "διακοπες τους λαου" για την Κινεζικη πρωτοχρονια γεμισαν τον πλανητη κορονοιο.

https://chinadigitaltimes.net/2020/03/t ... ream=china
CCP Central Committee General Secretary Xi Jinping, I respectfully request you reflect on the following:

The Gengzi Year [32nd year of a 60-year cycle] epidemic is a raging national crisis. It has shocked the world. From all the reliable information currently available through various sources, the following determinations can be made: Due to human error, we have missed the most important “golden window” of time to combat the epidemic—the time around [Chinese] New Year, especially the beginning and middle of January. This has resulted in the epidemic spreading with great ferocity. The costs of this mistake are enormous. The lessons we must learn are unspeakably painful. The losses, immeasurable.

As General Secretary Xi said: “This battle against novel coronavirus pneumonia is a grand test of the capacity of our nation’s system of governance.”

Regrettably, I must say, you’re scoring zero so far.

Now that the mistakes have been made, it is difficult to find the reasons why, through human error, this golden window period was missed. Our top priority now is to draw on lessons learned from the spread of the outbreak and the mistakes made so far in fighting the epidemic. This is extraordinarily important, to both China and the world.

As for how this grand human error resulting in this outbreak and its ferocious spread could have happened, I humbly offer these five reasons.

1. The Habitual Use of Extreme Social Stability Measures

For a long time, the ingrained notion of “stability overrides all” has twisted how we treat so many societal problems. Upon careful examination of this “extreme stability” principle, all negative events, including both natural and made-made disasters, are seen as threats to stability. Both undermine the system’s image as being stable. As a result, a kind of rule has formed which holds that if any negative event can be handled in a low-profile fashion, then it should be. And so, the focus of this so-called stability is on the safety of the political regime, rather than the wellbeing of the people. To date, authoritative Chinese and foreign sources of information are all constantly confirming the following: Policy makers knew about the present outbreak from the very beginning, ordinary people were the only ones who didn’t know, and yet ordinary people are the only ones who suffer the consequences. I regret to say, since the beginning of the epidemic, the underlying psychology of policy makers deliberately concealing the epidemic is this: Put the safety of the regime before the safety of the people; put the stability of the regime before the stability of society; put the esteem of the regime before the rights and interests of the people. Because of this, officials on all levels work together to deliberately conceal the outbreak—at the expense of people’s lives, with no regard for the fact that concealing the truth would lead to further spread of the outbreak and provoke societal unrest. This is precisely what is meant by “putting political security first.”

Policy makers hoped in their hearts that they could make it through this outbreak on blind luck. They were unable to quickly mobilize society to implement effective prevention and control measures as early as possible, missing the golden window again and again, and thereby resulting in the fierce spread of the outbreak. This has a direct connection to this extreme, twisted, regime-based, “putting the political regime first” social stability way of thinking.

2. The Institutional Practice of Only Reporting Good News, Not Reporting Bad

The system encourages the reporting of good news and discourages reporting bad news. This has been a long-standing practice. Those lower on the totem pole report good news to higher-ups and avoid bad news to curry favor, to fish for political capital. Higher-ups report only good news to the public, constructing an image of infallible political authority. This is especially true during Spring Festival, the most important holiday for the Chinese people. Portraying images of “peace,” “prosperity,” and “joy” becomes a political mission of oppression. Because of this, even though the China CDC declared a level-two emergency on January 6–which did in fact cause public awareness–the next day, on January 7, at the same time policymakers called for precautionary measures, they still directed that any such measures must not interfere with Spring Festival festivities. They wanted to completely stunt public awareness of the outbreak. On January 23, the outbreak put Wuhan on lockdown. On the same day, shockingly, the General Secretary mentioned not a single word about the outbreak during his Chinese New Year Festival speech. Perhaps the General Secretary just wished for the public to celebrate at ease, to feel good. Why not just avoid mentioning such troubling things? But this behavior of reporting the good and not the bad is obviously not conducive to public vigilance and preventative action.

3. Rigid Institutional Supremacy

Supremacy is a chronic disease within a system. This has become an even larger problem over the last several years. In a system of governance, authority resting solely at the very top inevitably results in stiff, mechanical incompetence. Officials at all levels focus solely on those above them, everything revolves around power. In the face of a menacing epidemic, there is a lack of initiative, flexibility, focus, and responsibility, inevitably leading to loss of precious time and endless consequences. Those responsible in the Hubei and Wuhan governments, these two levels of government, while they themselves had a clear understanding of the dangers this epidemic posed, still deceived the public, misled public opinion, and suppressed the disclosure of the truth by professionals, blindly relying on instructions from superiors, with seemingly no discussion of adjustments to protocol. They failed to proactively take necessary prevention and control measures. As a result, the epidemic spread like wildfire, resulting in national disaster.

4. Loss of Functioning Civil Society

Because of the institutional constraints on its structure, our society is one that is completely controlled vertically, without any horizontal connections. We are a society that is all longitude, no latitude. Having such a one-dimensional society means the loss of self-autonomy and the ability to help ourselves and our communities. Faced with this horrible epidemic, we can rely only on the vertically structured bureaucracy of the Party and government. Inefficient, slipshod. Twice the effort for half the result. In the communities at the very bottom of this vertical structure, during the present outbreak, it’s often the case that just a dozen or so people manage tens of thousands. They are overwhelmed and exhausted. Not only are there a myriad of problems caused by the failure to properly address the epidemic, but now there’s also tension between these officials and the public. Because of this, a neighborhood cadre lamented, “A doctor was murdered in Beijing not too long ago. Over here, it’s the neighborhood Party Secretary they’re going to kill.”

The centralized control of power and resources of this vertical system is a hotbed for political corruption. The China Red Cross, as a wing of the vertical power structure, is the only organization that can legally distribute donated materials. During such a dangerous epidemic, would it really be such an intolerable dereliction of duty to allow other organizations to distribute disaster relief items? The reason the Red Cross dares to act with such impunity is because it is part of the power structure. It’s an untouchable, exclusive monopoly. Other, more efficient, more reputable NGOs, on the other hand, face difficulty after difficulty. Due to this lack of civil society, all of these various non-governmental and autonomous organizations lack legal status. They are unable to smoothly play a role. All space for society to help itself has been squeezed out. Society has lost its capacity for elastic interactivity. Meanwhile, the higher-level government bureaucracy acts as it always has. The grassroots are left overwhelmed, exhausted, stretched, and struggling to keep up. The provisional group they organized, the “Red Armbands,” was considered illegal, criminal. They were attacked with great force, an unbridled violation of human rights. How could this not lead to the spread of the epidemic? On top of this human tragedy, we also have humanitarian disaster

5. Lack of Information Transparency

We live in the Information Age, ease of access to and the transparency of information are basic conditions for maintaining the normal operation of society. This is particularly true during a public health crisis. As experts point out, rapid response is crucial in addressing public health issues. Information on an epidemic should be made public as soon as possible. Every day, every hour represents valuable time to contain the virus.

The Information Age offers a huge advantage–our ability to use the modern, developed internet to promptly communicate comprehensive information in real time. Through the internet, we can get a grasp on an outbreak as soon as possible, and, with this information, effectively prevent and control its spread. But because of systemic reasons and rigid ideological requirements, we often fail to utilize these advantages. To the contrary, we are often affected by its disadvantages. This is because the system sees information as a technological means of political control. They work in every possible way to prevent information from being used as a communication tool. The former is far and away more powerful than the latter. The latter must obey the former. As insightful people have said, “China’s current system of governance is a model of top-down decision making and implementation, rather than a system of bottom-up information collection and transmission.”

Due to the unreasonably strict control of information, early efforts by professionals to disclose invaluable information about the outbreak was actually blocked. Those disclosing the information were labeled “rumormongers” and were subjected to admonishment from the Public Security Bureau. They were publicly exposed on CCTV. The most notable cases of this was the treatment of the eight doctors, one of whom was Li Wenliang.

Without access to free-flowing, transparent information, the function of public opinion in exposing truth has been suppressed. The underlying reason for this is that free speech has become a kind of taboo. Regrettably, it must be pointed out that, for a very long time, the freedom of speech granted by the constitution has existed in name only. The system has erected barriers against public speech everywhere. They shut down networks and delete accounts with impunity. Such dictatorial actions suffocate the communication of information and the ability of public opinion to act as a check on power. The information blockades, restraints on public opinion, and stripping of freedom of speech both violate basic human rights and paralyze and mislead the public’s timely and objective knowledge of the epidemic. These practices subject the public to a huge amount of psychological stress. With these practices, it was impossible to avoid wasting all that precious time during this current epidemic. As a result, the outbreak spread like wildfire.

Regrettably, it must be said, because of the five aforementioned systemic reasons, we missed our golden window to address the epidemic, resulting in its ferocious spread. I can’t help but take the liberty to point out that some responsibility for this kind of global systemic crisis rests on the leaders of Hubei Province and Wuhan city. But the main responsibility is on the central government. General Secretary Xi Jinping is primarily responsible.

Man-made errors in decision-making and fundamental shortcomings of the system have led to the ferocious spread of the outbreak, to national disaster, and to global catastrophe—all from an epidemic that could have been nipped in the bud early on. One could say that the harm caused by the spread of this epidemic is proportional to the size of the decision-making error and the harm caused by these systemic defects. Human factors and systemic defects, causing the epidemic’s fierce spread, causing such gigantic harm—you could say it’s 10% natural disaster and 90% human catastrophe. We can no longer whitewash the truth. We can no longer claim easy victory. We can no longer treat a funeral like a wedding. We can no longer treat disaster as political achievement. How many have died? How much human tragedy? Express pride among a forest of corpses…sing praises atop a pile of bones—how can one bear it? The only thing we should be doing is thinking of every means possible to halt the damage.

When General Secretary Xi summarized his lessons for outbreak containment and prevention, he said we needed to “fix short boards and plug up any leaks.” Well, what are our short boards? Where are our leaks? As the five aforementioned reasons make clear, our shortest boards are the system’s short boards. Our biggest leaks are the system’s leaks.

“Those who warned to fix the chimney and move the kindling are never rewarded after a house burns down—only those who got burned putting it out are rewarded.”

If we could “fix the chimney and move the kindling,” then we wouldn’t have to get “burned.” As we’re recovering from our losses all across the country, fighting against the further proliferation of this epidemic’s “burn,” we mustn’t forget those people who suggested “fixing the chimney and moving the kindling” in the first place. Those are the people from within and without the system calling for systemic political reform, especially those critics who dare to point out the defects in our system. If those in power truly wanted to “earnestly listen to the public, no matter if it sounds good to you or not, as long as what they are saying is correct,” then so many disasters could have been averted. If they did occur, they’d be dealt with in a timely manner. It wouldn’t escalate to catastrophe. So many natural disasters would fail to result in human tragedy. When they do occur, they’d be dealt with as early as possible.

In response to this large-scale public health crisis, General Secretary Xi proposed the establishment of fourteen systemic practices. (After reading them I couldn’t help but gasp. Logically speaking, these fourteen practices should have been established at least as early as after the 2003 SARS epidemic, for crying out loud!) These fourteen practices require one prerequisite—one for the political system. That is, to implement the Socialist core values of “freedom, democracy, equality, and rule of law”; to establish a responsible government whose rights are effectively monitored and restricted; to establish normal, healthy civil society; and to guarantee the political rights of citizens, such as freedom of speech, as granted by the constitution.

This should be the biggest lesson we take away from the present epidemic. Therefore, we must not merely call for urgent action. Rather, we must take this battle as an opportunity to deepen political reform, implement the core Socialist values of “freedom, democracy, equality, and rule of law,” build a responsible government subject to effective supervision and restraint, build a normal and healthy civil society, and guarantee the political rights of citizens, including freedom of speech, as granted by the constitution.

Is the above correct? I look forward to your response!

Sincerely,

Member, China Association for Promoting Democracy (former member of the Central Committee and Deputy Director of the Culture and Arts Commission)
Retired Professor, Minzu University of China

Zhao Shilin

February 23, 2020
"Έκαστος τόπος έχει την πληγήν του: Η Αγγλία την ομίχλην, η Αίγυπτος τας οφθαλμίας, η Βλαχία τας ακρίδας και η Ελλάς τους Έλληνας".
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Μαυροβασίλης έγραψε: 23 Μαρ 2020, 00:06 να ξαναρωτήσω πόσοι απολογητές έχουν δουλέψει* μαζί τους;

* όχι έχω κουλ ατομάκι χιπστεροκινέζο στη δουλειά, εννοώ σοβαρά βέρια
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Niki έγραψε: 23 Μαρ 2020, 06:46 Αν έβγαζε κάποιος ένα πρόγραμμα για μια χώρα να κυριαρχήσει στον πλανήτη πιστεύω ότι θα ήτανε αυτό.
1.Να φτιάξουμε μια γλώσσα δύσκολη έως πολύ δύσκολη.
Μόνον με αυτό έχεις αποτύχει πριν ξεκινήσεις. Κυριαρχείς μόνον όταν μιλάνε την γλώσσα σου όλοι και αυτό ήδη έχει συμβεί.

Και είναι από τις πιο εύκολες γλώσσες (νταξ, έχει στριφνή ορθογραφία, αλλά αυτό ευθυγραμμίζεται σιγά σιγά).
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sharp έγραψε: 23 Μαρ 2020, 12:30
Niki έγραψε: 23 Μαρ 2020, 06:46 Αν έβγαζε κάποιος ένα πρόγραμμα για μια χώρα να κυριαρχήσει στον πλανήτη πιστεύω ότι θα ήτανε αυτό.
1.Να φτιάξουμε μια γλώσσα δύσκολη έως πολύ δύσκολη.
Μόνον με αυτό έχεις αποτύχει πριν ξεκινήσεις. Κυριαρχείς μόνον όταν μιλάνε την γλώσσα σου όλοι και αυτό ήδη έχει συμβεί.

Και είναι από τις πιο εύκολες γλώσσες (νταξ, έχει στριφνή ορθογραφία, αλλά αυτό ευθυγραμμίζεται σιγά σιγά).
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