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Dwarven Blacksmith έγραψε: 25 Ιαν 2021, 22:29
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Dwarven Blacksmith έγραψε: 25 Ιαν 2021, 21:03 except on those, like human rights, that he deems "internal affairs."
Ωραίος. :D Λες να συμφωνήσει σε αυτό ο άλλος φίλος σου,ο Σόρος;
Φυσικά και όχι, είναι θανάσιμοι εχθροί.
Κρίμα που πρέπει σε αυτό να διαλέξεις. :a040: Σε αυτό ο Τραμπ θα είχε μεγαλύτερη κατανόηση. :D
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πατησιωτης έγραψε: 25 Ιαν 2021, 22:37
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Ωραίος. :D Λες να συμφωνήσει σε αυτό ο άλλος φίλος σου,ο Σόρος;
Φυσικά και όχι, είναι θανάσιμοι εχθροί.
Κρίμα που πρέπει σε αυτό να διαλέξεις. :a040: Σε αυτό ο Τραμπ θα είχε μεγαλύτερη κατανόηση. :D
Δεν χρειάζεται να διαλέξω, θεωρία τιμονιέρας.
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Dwarven Blacksmith έγραψε: 25 Ιαν 2021, 21:03 Περίληψη για τους τεμπέληδες
και το Full Text:
Xi Jinping Speech at World Economic Forum’s virtual “Davos Agenda” conference

https://insiderpaper.com/full-text-chin ... enda-2021/
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Είπε πότε θα πληρώσει τις αποζημιώσεις;
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και το Full Text:
Xi Jinping Speech at World Economic Forum’s virtual “Davos Agenda” conference

https://insiderpaper.com/full-text-chin ... enda-2021/
"Ενας νέος ψυχρός πόλεμος πρέπει να αποτραπεί με οποιοδήποτε κόστος."

Και ο Τραμπ στην τελευταία του ομιλία είπε πως κατάφερε να στρέψει όλον τον κόσμο εναντίον της Κίνας.

Από χαζό και απο μικρό, μαθαίνεις την αλήθεια, λεν στο χωριό μου. :lol:
Ακόμα τούτη ή άνοιξη ραγιάδες, ραγιάδες, τούτο το καλοκαίρι, μέχρι να ρθεί ο Μόσκοβος να φέρει το σεφέρι.
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talaipwros έγραψε: 25 Ιαν 2021, 23:28 Είπε πότε θα πληρώσει τις αποζημιώσεις;
Ναι, πολύ σύντομα λέει, μη βρείτε δουλειά, έρχονται.
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Στην Κίνα πάντως, προβλέπω και επερχόμενη σύγκρουση κεφαλαίων.

Από τη μία το εγχώριό της κεφάλαιο που έχει αναπτυχθεί, επιθυμεί δημοκρατία στη χώρα του και γενικότερα φιλελευθεροποίηση, για να μην υφίσταται τον καθεστωτικό και κρατικό παρεμβατισμό. Το διαπιστώνει κανείς και από τις κριτικές που ασκούν Κινέζοι επιχειρηματίες στο Σι Τζινπίνγκ για τη διαχείριση της πανδημίας, μετά τις οποίες «εξαφανίζονται μυστηριωδώς». :)

Από την άλλη, υπάρχει το δυτικό πολυεθνικό κεφάλαιο που δραστηριοποιείται εκεί. Η κομμουνιστική Κίνα αποτελεί για αυτούς προνομιακό πεδίο πλουτισμού. Τους προσφέρει απίστευτα «προνόμια», δύο εκ των οποίων είναι τα φθηνά εργατικά χέρια και η απαγόρευση του συνδικαλισμού. Για αυτούς αποτελεί «φλέβα χρυσού» και είναι αποφασισμένοι να την κρατήσουν με νύχια και με δόντια. Είναι ικανοί ακόμη και να πουλήσουν στους Μπολσεβίκους το σχοινί με το οποίο θα τους κρεμάσουνε για αυτό το λόγο. Ολόκληρο πόλεμο έκαναν στον Τραμπ για να μη χάσουν αυτό το «προνόμιο». Αποτελούν το ισχυρότερο στήριγμα του κινεζικού κομμουνιστικού καθεστώτος.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/26/wuhan-doctor-china-authorities-stopped-me-sounding-alarm-on-covid έγραψε: Wuhan doctor: China authorities stopped me sounding alarm on Covid

Medic at heart of original outbreak tells BBC documentary staff were not allowed to wear masks despite concern about human transmission

A doctor from the Wuhan hospital hit hardest by the Covid-19 epidemic has said he and colleagues suspected the virus was highly transmissible in early January last year, weeks before Chinese authorities admitted it, but were prevented from warning anyone.

The doctor’s testimony – in a new BBC documentary on the 54 days between the first known case of coronavirus and the Wuhan lockdown – adds to mounting evidence of Beijing’s early attempts to cover up the virus outbreak, and intimidate healthworkers into staying quiet.

Wuhan central hospital is just a few kilometres from the Huanan wet market, the epicentre of the coronavirus outbreak, and was quickly overwhelmed by patients after the first cases emerged in December 2019. More than 200 hospital employees reportedly contracted the virus, and several, including whistleblower doctor Li Wenliang, died.

The hospital’s respiratory department was full by 10 January, the unnamed doctor told the BBC for its programme, 54 Days. “It was out of control, we started to panic,” he said.

But hospital authorities banned them from speaking to anyone, and wouldn’t allow them to wear masks, he said. “Everyone knew it was human-to-human transmission, even a fool would know. So why say there was none? This made us very confused and very angry.”

The doctor said within weeks there were hundreds or thousands of suspected cases but they had no means of confirming or reporting a diagnosis within the hospital structure. Just 41 cases had been officially reported by that time.

Previous reporting has revealed Beijing’s leadership was aware of a likely pandemic for at least six days while telling the public it was low risk, before it eventually warned of human-to-human transmission on 20 January. Authorities were also accused of preventing the release of genomic sequencing results for several days, until professor Zhang Yongzhen published his online, against strict orders.

American virologist Ian Lipkin told the BBC he was contacted by the head of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), George Gao, around the new year, as rumours of the virus began to circulate. Lipkin said Gao told him they had identified the virus and it was not highly transmissible.
“I don’t think he was duplicitous. I think he was just wrong,” said Lipkin. “He should have released some sequences and said this is what we know.”

Gao, who declined to be interviewed, has told state media sequences were released as quickly as possible and that he never said there was no human-to-human transmission.

By the time Wuhan went into lockdown on 23 January, the Wuhan central hospital was receiving 2,500 cases a day.

“There were some patients who didn’t need to die. There was nothing we could do, the medical resources were just too tight at that time,” said the doctor. “I believe the true history needs to be remembered. We need to learn the lessons so that this doesn’t happen again.”

China has insisted it quickly released all relevant information and has denied all accusations of a cover-up. :lol:

Professor Laurence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization (WHO) collaborating centre on health law at Georgetown university, said China’s failure to report the existence of the virus was a violation of international health regulations, and mirrored the cover-up conducted during the 2003 Sars epidemic. :roll:

“The country has an obligation to answer WHO’s questions honestly fully and transparently and I don’t think that happened entirely,” said Gostin.

The BBC documentary also examined the response of the WHO, which continued to publicly stand by China’s assurances that there was no evidence of human-to-human transmission even while experts internally believed otherwise and were briefing world leaders to prepare.

Leaked audio from inside WHO meetings – obtained by the Associated Press and broadcast by the BBC – revealed WHO officials discussing the similarity of the situation with the Sars outbreak and “endlessly trying to get updates from China”, and the danger of “finger pointing” if something were to happen. :vp24:

“[To say] there is no evidence of human-to-human transmission is not good enough. We need to see the data, we need to be able to determine for ourselves the geographic distribution, the timeline, all of that,” WHO’s emergencies head Michael Ryan said at one early January meeting.

The following day, WHO officials again praised China’s response. :lol:

Now, Chinese authorities are battling the country’s worst outbreak since early 2020, albeit in far smaller numbers, and a mission of WHO scientists is in Wuhan, completing quarantine before it can start long-awaited investigation into the origins of the virus. While those on the team have stressed it is not about apportioning blame, there are already concerns about whether China will give them the access required, amid a concerted effort by Beijing to rewrite the narrative of the virus’s origins. :a108:

The documentary airs on BBC 2 on Tuesday. It is the first of a two-part series, with the second episode focusing on the US response to the pandemic
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https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/26/asia/xi-jinping-china-vaccine-intl-hnk/index.html έγραψε: Addressing the world's economic elite on Monday, Chinese President Xi Jinping said that "containing the coronavirus is the most pressing task for the international community."

In a speech to the World Economic Forum, Xi called for "closer solidarity and cooperation, more information sharing, and a stronger global response," as well as "international cooperation on Covid vaccines."
China has been praised for its "vaccine diplomacy," promising shots to developing countries and investing in vaccine candidates that do not require expensive cold storage to be effective. But as questions have been raised over the effectiveness of one of those vaccines, the country's state media has reacted aggressively, targeting not just critics but also other vaccines, in an apparent effort to tear down their reputation in the name of defending the Chinese shots. :pasxa:

Along with hyping reports of deaths allegedly related to vaccines -- a dangerous game that could undermine not only confidence in the Pfizer and Moderna candidates targeted by Chinese media, but all coronavirus shots -- China's propaganda organs have also pushed alternate theories about the origins of the pandemic itself, including a long-debunked claim that it began in a US army lab. :smt005:
"If the United States truly respects facts, it should open the biological lab at Fort Detrick (and) give more transparency to issues like its 200-plus overseas bio-labs," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said last week, adding that the US should invite World Health Organization (WHO) investigators "to conduct origin-tracing" as they are in China. :smt005: :smt005:

The leading US military germ lab, Fort Detrick briefly became a trending topic on Chinese social media after Hua's comments, which were heavily promoted online by the Communist Youth League, among other Party and state-backed accounts. :pasxa: Previously, Chinese officials have suggested -- without evidence -- that even if the pandemic did originate in Wuhan, the coronavirus could have been brought to the city by US soldiers taking part in the Military World Games in October 2019. :pasxa:

Beijing has also pushed the idea that the virus could have entered the country on frozen food or other goods, despite most outside researchers disputing claims that it could be easily spread this way. :smt005:
Asked by CNN about her Fort Detrick comments, Hua claimed there was evidence that "the epidemic broke out in multiple places earlier in the autumn of 2019 and there might be links between the seasonal influenza in the US and the epidemic," adding that it was "not for China, but for the US, to offer the answers."
Claims that the pandemic had "multiple origins" have not been supported by most scientists, and even if true, do not change the fact that the Chinese city of Wuhan was where the first major outbreak occurred, and where local officials were found to have downplayed the danger, allowing the virus to spread. :g030:
Wuhan remains the most likely origin of the pandemic itself, providing scientists with important data about how the virus evolved and what lessons we could draw from this for the future.
After months of delays and diplomatic wrangling, a WHO research team arrived in the city earlier this month to begin an investigation, bringing with them additional scrutiny, which seems to have prompted the sudden resurgence of the Fort Detrick conspiracies.
The WHO team has already said that they have no intention of assigning blame, nor is it necessarily their job to do so. However, any suggestion of uncertainty about the origins of the pandemic, or how the virus first began spreading, will likely be seized upon by Beijing to reinforce the alternative theories state media is already advancing.

New outbreaks of the virus in China itself, after months of having largely got the pandemic under control, also add to the urgency of deflecting blame outwards, particularly as cities are plunged back into lockdown and potential economic misery.
Xi has repeatedly emphasized the success of the Chinese Communist Party in tackling the pandemic, an achievement that is all the more striking when compared with the US and much of western Europe. As it rolls out vaccines both domestically and internationally, the chance of turning the coronavirus from a reputational disaster into a propaganda win must be all the more alluring.
But the promotion of vaccine disinformation could have major repercussions, not only in the US but also in China.
On Monday, Global Times, the state-backed tabloid which has led the charge on attacking the Pfizer and Moderna mRNA-based vaccines, used the death of a single patient in California to claim without evidence that the shots were dangerous. Health experts have said repeatedly that deaths will occur after vaccination -- especially in the early stages, when most people inoculated are elderly and sick -- but this does not mean they were caused by the shot itself. :g030:
Global Times even cited health authorities in Placer county, who it said reject "the link between the person's death and the vaccine." But this did not stop the paper using this as a peg to quote anonymous Chinese experts claiming mRNA shots were dangerous and "may contain unknown risks."
This reporting goes beyond attacking the specific Pfizer shot too, suggesting that the technology used to develop the newer mRNA vaccines is itself untrustworthy -- a claim that has no substance and could have repercussions for future Chinese products as well as the existing Pfizer/Moderna shots.

Such reports are having an effect. Last week, Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte pointed to reports -- heavily promoted by Chinese officials and state media -- of deaths in Norway, where the Pfizer vaccine is being distributed. Norwegian health authorities have said there was no correlation between receiving the Pfizer vaccine and increased risk of death among the 23 deceased patients who had previously received the shot.
"Almost everybody that I know is scrambling to buy this Pfizer (vaccine)," Duterte said in addressing calls from some lawmakers to prioritize the US manufacturer's shots over Chinese vaccines. "If you want to follow the experience of Norway, go ahead. Nobody would stop you."
His comments were quickly picked up by Chinese media, feeding another round of disinformation.

Writing this week, Yanzhong Huang, senior fellow for global health at the Council on Foreign Relations, said that China's success in tackling the pandemic at home may have left the country with a false sense of security when it comes to vaccines. Huang cited polling data showing that a surprising number of Chinese respondents cited "not being enough at risk from Covid-19" as a reason to refuse taking a shot, an unusual result even in countries where vaccine hesitancy is far more widespread than in China.
Similar sentiment could be behind the Chinese government's willingness to play fast and loose with vaccine misinformation. China has among the least vaccine hesitant populations in the world, according to a recent Nature study, and even if skepticism were to increase, the ability of an authoritarian state to force mass inoculation is not in doubt.
But as Xi himself noted Monday, vaccines are vital to the global pandemic response, indeed, this is why Beijing has invested in providing inoculations to developing countries. But such an effort will be undermined if, along with vaccines, China is also exporting misinformation and hesitancy.
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η Νέα Ζηλανδία φαίνεται να λακίζει απο την αντικινεζική συμμαχία των αγγλογονων five eyes

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Λμαο εκεί που λέει ότι ποσταρε το γονιδίωμα πάρα τις αυστηρές εντολές εναντίον έκλαψα :smt005:

Για να επιμένουν τόσο τα Δυτικά ΜΜΕ απομακρύνεται η πιθανότητα να ξεκινήσε στη Γουχαν. Μάλλον η Κίνα έσωσε τον κόσμο προειδοποιώντας πρώτη.
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Dwarven Blacksmith έγραψε: 26 Ιαν 2021, 13:12 Για να επιμένουν τόσο τα Δυτικά ΜΜΕ απομακρύνεται η πιθανότητα να ξεκινήσε στη Γουχαν. Μάλλον η Κίνα έσωσε τον κόσμο προειδοποιώντας πρώτη.
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dna replication έγραψε: 26 Ιαν 2021, 13:10 η Νέα Ζηλανδία φαίνεται να λακίζει απο την αντικινεζική συμμαχία των αγγλογονων five eyes

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Can't beat geography. Εντός δεκαετίας θα λυγίσει και η Αυστραλία. Σιγά μην κάτσει να γίνει Βόρειος Κορέα.
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