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Η οικονομια βελτιωθηκε παροδικα επι χουβτας λογω του παγκοσμιου καλου κλιματος. Η μεταπολιτευση βελτιωσε ακομη περισσοτερο την οικονομια. Οπως η παγκοσμια οικονομικη κριση στα τελη του 2010 εδειξε τις δομικες αδυναμιες της ελ οικονομιας, ετσι και η πετρελαικη κριση επι χουντας ανετρεψε την ανθιση της οικονομιας τοτε. Διοτι οπως και τοτε ετσι και τωρα, η ελ οικονομια ειναι ενα σαπιοκαραβο το οποιο αναλογα με τα κυμματα της παγκοσμιας οικονομιας παει πανω και κατω.

Παντως υπηρχαν πολλα οικονομικα σκανδαλα...αλλα ποιος να τα γραψει εκεινο τον καιρο.

Leporello έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 19:06 Επρεπε να φύγουν όλοι αυτοί και στην θέση τους να μείνουν οι Τούρκοι τής Θεσσαλονίκης

Αυτοί θα άλλαζαν τα φώτα στη Θεσσαλονίκη και στη Μακεδονία.

Nandros έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 19:12

Golden Age έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 18:54

Nandros έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 17:54
Πρακτοράρα του κιαρατά ο σκατοπαπαδόπουλος. Θα το πιεις το ξυνό ποτήρι χουντολάγνε! :
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Καμμία απόδειξη δεν υπάρχει επ' αυτού. Μόνο ισχυρισμοί παπατζήδων.

Shadow Warrior: William Egan Colby and the CIA: "In 1967, a group of neo-fascist colonels had staged a coup and seized power in Greece. They installed George Papadopoulos, who had been on the CIA payroll off and on since the 1950s, as president."

Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA: "Most of it came from members and supporters of "the colonels"—the Greek junta that seized power in April 1967, led by George Papadopoulos, a recruited CIA agent since the days of Allen Dulles, and the KYP's liaison to the agency."

Dr. Andreas Constandinos again confirms in America, Britain and the Cyprus Crisis of 1974: Calculated Conspiracy or Foreign Policy Failure? that William Colby had admitted "the agency had 'worked with' George Papadopoulos in the Colonel's 'official capacity'".

Daniele Ganser in NATO's Secret Armies: Operation GLADIO and Terrorism in Western Europe: "The new ruler George Papadopoulos had operated as KYP's liaison officer with the CIA ever since 1952 and within the KYP was known to be the trusted man of CIA chief of station [Jack] Maury."

The Independent, in George Papadopoulos's Obituary: "Between 1959 and 1964 [Papadopoulos] served as a staff officer in the Greek Central Intelligence Agency (KYP), following a period in which it is claimed that he was trained by the CIA in the United States."

The Economist, in their Obituary post "He had been attached to a Greek army intelligence unit that had links with the CIA."

William Blum quote: "A CIA report dated 23 January 1967 had specifically named the Papadopoulos group as one plotting a coup, and was apparently one of the reports discussed at the February meeting. Of the cabal of five officers which took power in April, four, reportedly, were intimately connected to the American military or to the CIA in Greece. The fifth man had been brought in because of the armored units he commanded. George Papadopoulos emerged as the defacto leader, taking the title prime minister later in the year. The catchword amongst old hands at the US military mission in Greece was that Papadopoulos was "the first CIA agent to become Premier of a European country"."

Πάμε πάλι τα ίδια. Κύκλος.

Golden Age έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 17:43
Ο Κόλμπυ, δεν είχε ασχοληθεί ποτέ ενεργά με την Ελλάδα κι αν είχε ασχοληθεί, θα είχε ασχοληθεί επιφανειακά. Η δραστηριότητά του στην Ευρώπη, ήταν καθαρά στη δεκαετία του '50.

Όλοι οι υπόλοιποι που επικαλείσαι είναι παπατζήδες και ψεκασμένοι.

Golden Age έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 19:13

Nandros έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 19:12

Golden Age έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 18:54

Καμμία απόδειξη δεν υπάρχει επ' αυτού. Μόνο ισχυρισμοί παπατζήδων.

Shadow Warrior: William Egan Colby and the CIA: "In 1967, a group of neo-fascist colonels had staged a coup and seized power in Greece. They installed George Papadopoulos, who had been on the CIA payroll off and on since the 1950s, as president."

Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA: "Most of it came from members and supporters of "the colonels"—the Greek junta that seized power in April 1967, led by George Papadopoulos, a recruited CIA agent since the days of Allen Dulles, and the KYP's liaison to the agency."

Dr. Andreas Constandinos again confirms in America, Britain and the Cyprus Crisis of 1974: Calculated Conspiracy or Foreign Policy Failure? that William Colby had admitted "the agency had 'worked with' George Papadopoulos in the Colonel's 'official capacity'".

Daniele Ganser in NATO's Secret Armies: Operation GLADIO and Terrorism in Western Europe: "The new ruler George Papadopoulos had operated as KYP's liaison officer with the CIA ever since 1952 and within the KYP was known to be the trusted man of CIA chief of station [Jack] Maury."

The Independent, in George Papadopoulos's Obituary: "Between 1959 and 1964 [Papadopoulos] served as a staff officer in the Greek Central Intelligence Agency (KYP), following a period in which it is claimed that he was trained by the CIA in the United States."

The Economist, in their Obituary post "He had been attached to a Greek army intelligence unit that had links with the CIA."

William Blum quote: "A CIA report dated 23 January 1967 had specifically named the Papadopoulos group as one plotting a coup, and was apparently one of the reports discussed at the February meeting. Of the cabal of five officers which took power in April, four, reportedly, were intimately connected to the American military or to the CIA in Greece. The fifth man had been brought in because of the armored units he commanded. George Papadopoulos emerged as the defacto leader, taking the title prime minister later in the year. The catchword amongst old hands at the US military mission in Greece was that Papadopoulos was "the first CIA agent to become Premier of a European country"."

Πάμε πάλι τα ίδια. Κύκλος.

Golden Age έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 17:43
Ο Κόλμπυ, δεν είχε ασχοληθεί ποτέ ενεργά με την Ελλάδα κι αν είχε ασχοληθεί, θα είχε ασχοληθεί επιφανειακά. Η δραστηριότητά του στην Ευρώπη, ήταν καθαρά στη δεκαετία του '50.

Όλοι οι υπόλοιποι που επικαλείσαι είναι παπατζήδες και ψεκασμένοι.

Όσο θα προπαγανδίζεις με ψέματα υπέρ των καταδικασμένων για εσχάτη προδοσία χουντικών, τόσο θα βλέπεις τις αποδείξεις πως ο χουντοπαπαδόπουλος ήταν πράκτορας της CIA !

Nandros έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 19:17

Golden Age έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 19:13

Nandros έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 19:12

Shadow Warrior: William Egan Colby and the CIA: "In 1967, a group of neo-fascist colonels had staged a coup and seized power in Greece. They installed George Papadopoulos, who had been on the CIA payroll off and on since the 1950s, as president."

Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA: "Most of it came from members and supporters of "the colonels"—the Greek junta that seized power in April 1967, led by George Papadopoulos, a recruited CIA agent since the days of Allen Dulles, and the KYP's liaison to the agency."

Dr. Andreas Constandinos again confirms in America, Britain and the Cyprus Crisis of 1974: Calculated Conspiracy or Foreign Policy Failure? that William Colby had admitted "the agency had 'worked with' George Papadopoulos in the Colonel's 'official capacity'".

Daniele Ganser in NATO's Secret Armies: Operation GLADIO and Terrorism in Western Europe: "The new ruler George Papadopoulos had operated as KYP's liaison officer with the CIA ever since 1952 and within the KYP was known to be the trusted man of CIA chief of station [Jack] Maury."

The Independent, in George Papadopoulos's Obituary: "Between 1959 and 1964 [Papadopoulos] served as a staff officer in the Greek Central Intelligence Agency (KYP), following a period in which it is claimed that he was trained by the CIA in the United States."

The Economist, in their Obituary post "He had been attached to a Greek army intelligence unit that had links with the CIA."

William Blum quote: "A CIA report dated 23 January 1967 had specifically named the Papadopoulos group as one plotting a coup, and was apparently one of the reports discussed at the February meeting. Of the cabal of five officers which took power in April, four, reportedly, were intimately connected to the American military or to the CIA in Greece. The fifth man had been brought in because of the armored units he commanded. George Papadopoulos emerged as the defacto leader, taking the title prime minister later in the year. The catchword amongst old hands at the US military mission in Greece was that Papadopoulos was "the first CIA agent to become Premier of a European country"."

Πάμε πάλι τα ίδια. Κύκλος.

Golden Age έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 17:43
Ο Κόλμπυ, δεν είχε ασχοληθεί ποτέ ενεργά με την Ελλάδα κι αν είχε ασχοληθεί, θα είχε ασχοληθεί επιφανειακά. Η δραστηριότητά του στην Ευρώπη, ήταν καθαρά στη δεκαετία του '50.

Όλοι οι υπόλοιποι που επικαλείσαι είναι παπατζήδες και ψεκασμένοι.

Όσο θα προπαγανδίζεις με ψέματα υπέρ των καταδικασμένων για εσχάτη προδοσία χουντικών, τόσο θα βλέπεις τις αποδείξεις πως ο χουντοπαπαδόπουλος ήταν πράκτορας της CIA !

Μα δεν παρέθεσες καμμία απολύτως απόδειξη.

Golden Age έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 19:17

Nandros έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 19:17

Golden Age έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 19:13

Πάμε πάλι τα ίδια. Κύκλος.

Όσο θα προπαγανδίζεις με ψέματα υπέρ των καταδικασμένων για εσχάτη προδοσία χουντικών, τόσο θα βλέπεις τις αποδείξεις πως ο χουντοπαπαδόπουλος ήταν πράκτορας της CIA !

Μα δεν παρέθεσες καμμία απολύτως απόδειξη.

Μόνο οι τυφλοί δεν τις βλέπουν!

Shadow Warrior: William Egan Colby and the CIA: "In 1967, a group of neo-fascist colonels had staged a coup and seized power in Greece. They installed George Papadopoulos, who had been on the CIA payroll off and on since the 1950s, as president."

Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA: "Most of it came from members and supporters of "the colonels"—the Greek junta that seized power in April 1967, led by George Papadopoulos, a recruited CIA agent since the days of Allen Dulles, and the KYP's liaison to the agency."

Dr. Andreas Constandinos again confirms in America, Britain and the Cyprus Crisis of 1974: Calculated Conspiracy or Foreign Policy Failure? that William Colby had admitted "the agency had 'worked with' George Papadopoulos in the Colonel's 'official capacity'".

Daniele Ganser in NATO's Secret Armies: Operation GLADIO and Terrorism in Western Europe: "The new ruler George Papadopoulos had operated as KYP's liaison officer with the CIA ever since 1952 and within the KYP was known to be the trusted man of CIA chief of station [Jack] Maury."

The Independent, in George Papadopoulos's Obituary: "Between 1959 and 1964 [Papadopoulos] served as a staff officer in the Greek Central Intelligence Agency (KYP), following a period in which it is claimed that he was trained by the CIA in the United States."

The Economist, in their Obituary post "He had been attached to a Greek army intelligence unit that had links with the CIA."

William Blum quote: "A CIA report dated 23 January 1967 had specifically named the Papadopoulos group as one plotting a coup, and was apparently one of the reports discussed at the February meeting. Of the cabal of five officers which took power in April, four, reportedly, were intimately connected to the American military or to the CIA in Greece. The fifth man had been brought in because of the armored units he commanded. George Papadopoulos emerged as the defacto leader, taking the title prime minister later in the year. The catchword amongst old hands at the US military mission in Greece was that Papadopoulos was "the first CIA agent to become Premier of a European country"."

Golden Age έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 19:17

Nandros έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 19:17

Golden Age έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 19:13

Πάμε πάλι τα ίδια. Κύκλος.

Όσο θα προπαγανδίζεις με ψέματα υπέρ των καταδικασμένων για εσχάτη προδοσία χουντικών, τόσο θα βλέπεις τις αποδείξεις πως ο χουντοπαπαδόπουλος ήταν πράκτορας της CIA !

Μα δεν παρέθεσες καμμία απολύτως απόδειξη.

Ειχε γραφτει στον Observer και ο παπαδοπουλος εκανε μουγκα.

Nandros έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 19:24

Golden Age έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 19:17

Nandros έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 19:17
Όσο θα προπαγανδίζεις με ψέματα υπέρ των καταδικασμένων για εσχάτη προδοσία χουντικών, τόσο θα βλέπεις τις αποδείξεις πως ο χουντοπαπαδόπουλος ήταν πράκτορας της CIA !

Μα δεν παρέθεσες καμμία απολύτως απόδειξη.

Μόνο οι τυφλοί δεν τις βλέπουν!

Shadow Warrior: William Egan Colby and the CIA: "In 1967, a group of neo-fascist colonels had staged a coup and seized power in Greece. They installed George Papadopoulos, who had been on the CIA payroll off and on since the 1950s, as president."

Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA: "Most of it came from members and supporters of "the colonels"—the Greek junta that seized power in April 1967, led by George Papadopoulos, a recruited CIA agent since the days of Allen Dulles, and the KYP's liaison to the agency."

Dr. Andreas Constandinos again confirms in America, Britain and the Cyprus Crisis of 1974: Calculated Conspiracy or Foreign Policy Failure? that William Colby had admitted "the agency had 'worked with' George Papadopoulos in the Colonel's 'official capacity'".

Daniele Ganser in NATO's Secret Armies: Operation GLADIO and Terrorism in Western Europe: "The new ruler George Papadopoulos had operated as KYP's liaison officer with the CIA ever since 1952 and within the KYP was known to be the trusted man of CIA chief of station [Jack] Maury."

The Independent, in George Papadopoulos's Obituary: "Between 1959 and 1964 [Papadopoulos] served as a staff officer in the Greek Central Intelligence Agency (KYP), following a period in which it is claimed that he was trained by the CIA in the United States."

The Economist, in their Obituary post "He had been attached to a Greek army intelligence unit that had links with the CIA."

William Blum quote: "A CIA report dated 23 January 1967 had specifically named the Papadopoulos group as one plotting a coup, and was apparently one of the reports discussed at the February meeting. Of the cabal of five officers which took power in April, four, reportedly, were intimately connected to the American military or to the CIA in Greece. The fifth man had been brought in because of the armored units he commanded. George Papadopoulos emerged as the defacto leader, taking the title prime minister later in the year. The catchword amongst old hands at the US military mission in Greece was that Papadopoulos was "the first CIA agent to become Premier of a European country"."

Ο Κόλμπυ, δεν είχε ασχοληθεί ποτέ ενεργά με την Ελλάδα κι αν είχε ασχοληθεί, θα είχε ασχοληθεί επιφανειακά. Η δραστηριότητά του στην Ευρώπη, ήταν καθαρά στη δεκαετία του '50.

Όλοι οι υπόλοιποι που επικαλείσαι είναι παπατζήδες και ψεκασμένοι.

Golden απο που προκυπτει οτι οι υπολοιποι ειναι "παπατζηδες και ψεκασμενοι"?

Golden Age έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 19:27

Nandros έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 19:24

Golden Age έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 19:17 Μα δεν παρέθεσες καμμία απολύτως απόδειξη.

Μόνο οι τυφλοί δεν τις βλέπουν!

Shadow Warrior: William Egan Colby and the CIA: "In 1967, a group of neo-fascist colonels had staged a coup and seized power in Greece. They installed George Papadopoulos, who had been on the CIA payroll off and on since the 1950s, as president."

Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA: "Most of it came from members and supporters of "the colonels"—the Greek junta that seized power in April 1967, led by George Papadopoulos, a recruited CIA agent since the days of Allen Dulles, and the KYP's liaison to the agency."

Dr. Andreas Constandinos again confirms in America, Britain and the Cyprus Crisis of 1974: Calculated Conspiracy or Foreign Policy Failure? that William Colby had admitted "the agency had 'worked with' George Papadopoulos in the Colonel's 'official capacity'".

Daniele Ganser in NATO's Secret Armies: Operation GLADIO and Terrorism in Western Europe: "The new ruler George Papadopoulos had operated as KYP's liaison officer with the CIA ever since 1952 and within the KYP was known to be the trusted man of CIA chief of station [Jack] Maury."

The Independent, in George Papadopoulos's Obituary: "Between 1959 and 1964 [Papadopoulos] served as a staff officer in the Greek Central Intelligence Agency (KYP), following a period in which it is claimed that he was trained by the CIA in the United States."

The Economist, in their Obituary post "He had been attached to a Greek army intelligence unit that had links with the CIA."

William Blum quote: "A CIA report dated 23 January 1967 had specifically named the Papadopoulos group as one plotting a coup, and was apparently one of the reports discussed at the February meeting. Of the cabal of five officers which took power in April, four, reportedly, were intimately connected to the American military or to the CIA in Greece. The fifth man had been brought in because of the armored units he commanded. George Papadopoulos emerged as the defacto leader, taking the title prime minister later in the year. The catchword amongst old hands at the US military mission in Greece was that Papadopoulos was "the first CIA agent to become Premier of a European country"."

Ο Κόλμπυ, δεν είχε ασχοληθεί ποτέ ενεργά με την Ελλάδα κι αν είχε ασχοληθεί, θα είχε ασχοληθεί επιφανειακά. Η δραστηριότητά του στην Ευρώπη, ήταν καθαρά στη δεκαετία του '50.

Όλοι οι υπόλοιποι που επικαλείσαι είναι παπατζήδες και ψεκασμένοι.

Όσο θα προπαγανδίζεις με ψέματα υπέρ των καταδικασμένων για εσχάτη προδοσία χουντικών, τόσο θα βλέπεις τις αποδείξεις πως ο χουντοπαπαδόπουλος ήταν πράκτορας της CIA !

Golden Age έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 19:17 Μα δεν παρέθεσες καμμία απολύτως απόδειξη.

Δεν έχεις ανάγκη από αποδείξεις, εσύ Γκόλντεν
Η πραγματικότητα είναι ό,τι βολεύει την προπαγάνδα σου
Πώς ας πούμε η Μεταπολίτευση έδωσε άσυλο στον Πόλε εκδίδοντάς τον στην Γερμανία παρά την απόφαση του Συμβουλίου Εφετών;

μίστερ μαξ έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 19:27

Golden Age έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 19:17

Nandros έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 19:17
Όσο θα προπαγανδίζεις με ψέματα υπέρ των καταδικασμένων για εσχάτη προδοσία χουντικών, τόσο θα βλέπεις τις αποδείξεις πως ο χουντοπαπαδόπουλος ήταν πράκτορας της CIA !

Μα δεν παρέθεσες καμμία απολύτως απόδειξη.

Ειχε γραφτει στον Observer και ο παπαδοπουλος εκανε μουγκα.

Εκείνα τα χρόνια του πετούσαν 500 διαφορετικές λάσπες απο παντού σε εσωτερικό κι εξωτερικό. Δεν ξέρω αν "έναε μούγκα". Και να ήθελε να ασχοληθεί, δεν προλάβαινε, αφού προείχε η κατάστασησ το εσωτερικό.

Όλες αυτές τις ψυχροπολεμικές καγκεμπιτοπροπαγανδιστικές μπούρδες πάντως, τις διέψευσε η ίδια η CIA σε επίσημη ακρόαση στην αμερικανική Γερουσία.

Beria έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 19:34

Golden Age έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 19:17 Μα δεν παρέθεσες καμμία απολύτως απόδειξη.

Δεν έχεις ανάγκη από αποδείξεις, εσύ Γκόλντεν
Η πραγματικότητα είναι ό,τι βολεύει την προπαγάνδα σου
Πώς ας πούμε η Μεταπολίτευση έδωσε άσυλο στον Πόλε εκδίδοντάς τον στην Γερμανία παρά την απόφαση του Συμβουλίου Εφετών;

Έχεις λυσσάξει σε όλο το φόρουμ με το θέμα.

Οκ, αγνοούσα το μετά. Άσυλο πάντως αρχικά πήρε.

Και μάλιστα είχε την υποστήριξη του Ανδρέα Παπανδρέου και όλης της Αριστεράς (όλων αυτών δηλαδή που υποτίθεται ότι..."ήθελαν να εξαρθρώσουν τη 17Ν" , για τον δε ΕΛΑ ούτε λόγος...)

Golden Age έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 19:34

μίστερ μαξ έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 19:27

Golden Age έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 19:17

Μα δεν παρέθεσες καμμία απολύτως απόδειξη.

Ειχε γραφτει στον Observer και ο παπαδοπουλος εκανε μουγκα.

Εκείνα τα χρόνια του πετούσαν 500 διαφορετικές λάσπες απο παντού σε εσωτερικό κι εξωτερικό. Δεν ξέρω αν "έναε μούγκα". Και να ήθελε να ασχοληθεί, δεν προλάβαινε, αφού προείχε η κατάστασησ το εσωτερικό.

Όλες αυτές τις ψυχροπολεμικές καγκεμπιτοπροπαγανδιστικές μπούρδες πάντως, τις διέψευσε η ίδια η CIA σε επίσημη ακρόαση στην αμερικανική Γερουσία.

Ναι αν ειναι να πιστεψω την CIA ή τον Observer ξερω ποιον θα διαλεξω. Λες και ειναι οκ να ξεμπροστιαζουν τους πρακτορες τους.

alekhine έγραψε: 18 Νοέμ 2018, 19:28 Golden απο που προκυπτει οτι οι υπολοιποι ειναι "παπατζηδες και ψεκασμενοι"?

Ποιος απο αυτούς είναι αξιόπιστος;

Πάρε ένα παράδειγμα ενός εξ αυτών για να καταλάβεις. Απο την εποχή του πολέμου κατα της Αλ Κάιντα, όταν αβάνταρε τον Μπιν Λάντεν: