omg kai 3 lol έγραψε: 29 Ιουν 2024, 23:16
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Τοσο εσυ ρε ουφο οσο κι αυτη την ιδια δουλεια κανετε: τον Πλατωνα υποβαθμιζετε και την ελληνικη γνωση. Αυτη οτι ο ΠΛατωνας ηταν ενα αρχιδι μπροστα στις ινδικες γραφες κι εσυ οτι ο Πλατωνας πουλουσε φυκια.
Και φυσικα καθε σκεπτικιστης του κωλου που ισχυριζεται οτι ο Πλατωνας κανει αλληγορια ολως τυχαιως ξεχναει να αναφερει πως ο Πλατωνας αναφερει την Αμερικη καθως και την ημερομηνια 9.600 π.Χ. για την καταστροφη της Ατλαντιδας οταν το λειωσιμο των Παγετωνων ειχε σαν κεντρικη ημερομηνια το 9.700 π.Χ.
ποιος μιλαει για πολεμο Ποσειδωνα - Αθηνας; ο Πλατωνας; ή εσυ που κανεις αχταρμα την μανδαμ απο επανω;
εκανε αναφορα ο Πλατωνας στην Αμερικη; δειξε μου το χωριο που το λεει
μιλησε ο Πλατωνας για καταποντισμο της "ατλαντιδας" αλλα εννουσε το λιωσιμο των παγετωνων που εγινε σταδιακα σε μια χρονικη περιοδο 10.000 χρονων; (18.000-8.000)
ποιος γελοιοποιει ποιον ή καλυτερα ποιος αυτογελοιοποιειται αχαμπαρε γελοιε;
και εν τελει ο Πλατωνας ειναι γνωστος σε ολο τον κοσμο για τους πολιτικους-φιλοσοφικους διαλογους του οχι για τους ατλαντες και τις αρειες φυλες που τσαμπουνας εσυ και οι θεσοφιστες και οι καθε λογης φασιστες που την ειδαν περιουσιοι λαοι! ορμωμενοι απο μια προταση του Πλατωνα αναμεσα σε χιλιαδες σελιδες φιλοσοφικων κειμενων!!!
μαθε και κατι που δεν στο λεει ουτε ο Πλατωνας ουτε ο Ντανικεν και τα αλλα νοθα της μανταμ
ο μισος Ατλαντικος μεχρι πριν 16.000 χρονια ηταν καλυμμενος με παγετωνες
α) ΕΓΩ λεω για πολεμο Ποσειδωνα-Αθηνας, οχι η μανταμιτσα και προκειται ΠΑΛΙ για αρχαιοελληνικη παραδοση.
β) Για τον Πλατωνα και την Αμερικη ορθιο ζωο ανοιξα νημα που παρεθεσα ακριβως την αναφορα του για Ατλαντες στην Αμερικη.
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γ) OΣΟ ΚΑΙ ΝΑ ΧΤΥΠΙΕΣΑΙ η εποχη των Παγετωνων εληξε το 9.700 π.Χ. ενω ο Πλατωνας αναφερθηκε στην καταστροφη της Ατλαντιδας το 9.600 π.Χ.
The last glacial period, commonly referred to as the Ice Age, began 115,000 years before present, and ended around 9,700 BC; that is 11,700 years ago.
https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Ice_Age_traces
δ)
Ο ιδιος ο ΠΛατωνας θεωρησε την ιστορια για την Ατλαντιδα τοσο σημαντικη που την κατεγραψε σε ΔΥΟ διαλογους του, στον Κριτια και στον Τιμαιο. Και μαλιστα ΤΟΝΙΣΕ για τυχον μελλοντικους ΜΠΕΤΟΣΤΟΚΟΥΣ σαν κι εσενα πως προκειται για ΑΛΗΘΙΝΗ ιστορια και οχι για αλληγορια.
Ενω ΟΛΗ η αρχαια γραμματεια ΚΑΙ η ρωμαικη αναφεροντουσαν στην Ατλαντιδα, οχι μονο ο Πλατωνας.
Διαβαζε γιαουρτοβαρεμενε, αρχαιοι Ελληνες και Ρωμαιοι ειναι οι παρακατω, οχι η μανταμιτσα σου που την χρησιμοποιησες αθλιε για να θολωσεις τα νερα ενω και εσυ και αυτη τον Πλατωνα θελετε να μειωσετε.
Syrianus (died c.437 BC) the neoplatonist and one-time head of Plato’s Academy in Athens, considered Atlantis to be an historical fact. He wrote a commentary on Timaeus, now lost, but his views are recorded by Proclus.
Eumelos of Cyrene (c.400 BC) was a historian and contemporary of Plato’s who placed Atlantis in the central Mediterranean between Libya and Sicily.
Aristotle (384-322 BC) Plato’s pupil is constantly quoted in connection with his alleged criticism of Plato’s story. This claim was not made until 1819, when Delambre misinterpreted a commentary on Strabo by Isaac Casaubon. This error has been totally refuted by Thorwald C. Franke[880]. Furthermore it was Aristotle who stated that the Phoenicians knew of a large island in the Atlantic known as ’Antilia’.
Crantor (4th-3rdcent. BC) was Plato’s first editor who reported visiting Egypt where he claimed to have seen a marble column carved with hieroglyphics about Atlantis.
Theophrastus of Lesbos (370-287 BC) refers to colonies of Atlantis in the sea.
Theopompos of Chios (born c.380 BC), a Greek historian – wrote of the huge size of Atlantis and its cities of Machimum and Eusebius and a golden age free from disease and manual labour. Zhirov states [458.38/9] that Theopompos was considered a fabulist.
Apollodorus of Athens (fl. 140 BC) who was a pupil of Aristarchus of Samothrace (217-145 BC) wrote “Poseidon was very wrathful, and flooded the Thraisian plain, and submerged Attica under sea-water.” Bibliotheca, (III, 14, 1.)
Poseidonius (135-51 BC.) was Cicero’s teacher and wrote, “There were legends that beyond the Hercules Stones there was a huge area which was called “Poseidonis” or “Atlanta”
Diodorus Siculus (1stcent. BC), the Sicilian writer who has made a number of references to Atlantis.
Marcellus (c.100 BC) in his Ethiopic History quoted by Proclus [Zhirov p.40] refers to Atlantis consisting of seven large and three smaller islands.
Statius Sebosus (c. 50 BC), the Roman geographer, tells us that it was forty days’ sail from the Gorgades (the Cape Verdes) and the Hesperides (the Islands of the Ladies of the West, unquestionably the Caribbean).
Timagenus (c.55 BC), a Greek historian wrote of the war between Atlantis and Europe and noted that some of the ancient tribes in France claimed it as their original home. There is some dispute about the French druids’ claim.
Philo of Alexandria (b.15 BC) also known as Philo Judaeus also accepted the reality of Atlantis’ existence.
Strabo (67 BC-23 AD) in his Geographia stated that he fully agreed with Plato assertion that Atlantis was fact rather than fiction.
Plutarch (46-119 AD) wrote about the lost continent in his book Lives, he recorded that both the Phoenicians and the Greeks had visited this island which lay on the west end of the Atlantic.
Pliny the Younger (61-113 AD) is quoted by Frank Joseph as recording the existence of numerous sandbanks outside the Pillars of Hercules as late as 100 AD.
Pomponius Mela (c.100 AD), placed Atlantis in a southern temperate region.
Tertullian (160-220 AD) associated the inundation of Atlantis with Noah’s flood.
Claudius Aelian (170-235 AD) referred to Atlantis in his work The Nature of Animals.
Arnobius (4thcent. AD.), a Christian bishop, is frequently quoted as accepting the reality of Plato’s Atlantis.
Ammianus Marcellinus (330-395 AD), the Greek historian, who wrote about the destruction of Atlantis as an accepted fact by the intelligentsia of Alexandria.
Proclus Lycaeus (410-485 AD), a representative of the Neo-Platonic philosophy, recorded that there were several islands west of Europe. The inhabitants of these islands, he proceeds, remember a huge island that they all came from and which had been swallowed up by the sea. He also writes that the Greek philosopher Crantor saw the pillar with the hieroglyphic inscriptions, which told the story of Atlantis.
Cosmas Indicopleustes (6thcent. AD), a Byzantine geographer, in his Topographica Christiana (547 AD) quotes the Greek Historian, Timaeus (345-250 BC) who wrote of the ten kings of Chaldea [Zhirov p.40]. *[Marjorie Braymer[198.30] wrote that Cosmas was the first to use Plato’s Atlantis to support the veracity of the Bible.]