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Εμπεδοκλής έγραψε: 25 Φεβ 2022, 10:25 Μαλάκες μου ο Πρετεντέρης που το 2015 έκλεγε και παρακαλούσε για πλήρη παράδοση στους όρους που έθετε η τροϊκα ψέγιε τους άλλους που δηλώνουν ότι ηττώνται. Κάπου ώπα ρε μαλάκα Πρετεντέρη, πουτανάκι της κάθε τσατσάς.

ΑΧΑΡΙΣΤΟΣ έγραψε: 25 Φεβ 2022, 07:56 Μπραβο στους ναζι λοιπον. Αυτο θες ν'ακουσεις?

Kauldron έγραψε: 25 Φεβ 2022, 03:29 Όταν λέμε οτι την Επανάσταση του 1821 την έκαναν άνθρωποι με αντιλήψεις εθνικιστών (απ' αυτούς που είναι φυλακή τώρα), κάποιοι φωνάζουν, και δεν πιστεύουν.

John Brown Gun Club έγραψε: 25 Φεβ 2022, 18:51 Ο Μαο συμμαχησε με τους εθνικιστες εναντια στους Γιαπωνες εισβολεις στον δευτερο παγκοσμιο. Μετα τον πολεμο φυσικα τους εξοντωσε.

John Brown Gun Club έγραψε: 25 Φεβ 2022, 18:51 Ο Μαο συμμαχησε με τους εθνικιστες εναντια στους Γιαπωνες εισβολεις στον δευτερο παγκοσμιο. Μετα τον πολεμο φυσικα τους εξοντωσε.

Dwarven Blacksmith έγραψε: 25 Φεβ 2022, 18:57

John Brown Gun Club έγραψε: 25 Φεβ 2022, 18:51 Ο Μαο συμμαχησε με τους εθνικιστες εναντια στους Γιαπωνες εισβολεις στον δευτερο παγκοσμιο. Μετα τον πολεμο φυσικα τους εξοντωσε.

Well, δεν είναι τόσο απλό.
Για τον Sun Yat-sen τι άποψη έχεις;

The most prominent revolutionary in China at the end of the 19th century. and the first quarter of the 20th century. is Sun Yat-sen (1866-1925). Even on the eve of the Chinese revolution of 1911, Sun Yat-sen developed the political platform of the Chinese revolutionaries, which was highly appreciated by V. I. Lenin. “Militant, sincere democracy permeates every line of the Sun Yat-sen platform,” wrote V. I. Lenin in 1912 in his article “Democracy and Populism in China.”

Sun Yat Sen embodied his main ideas in the “three popular principles” – nationalism (the struggle for national independence), democracy (the creation of a republican system) and the people’s welfare (the transfer of land to the peasants and the limitation of capital). Sun Yat-sen’s economic program objectively opened the path of capitalist development for China, although subjectively Sun Yat-sen believed that with the help of his economic program in China, due to feudal backwardness, capitalism could be “prevented.” Sun Yat-sen fully shared Darwin’s materialistic theory of the origin of the world, expressed a number of materialistic thoughts on the theory of knowledge. However, in some issues (classification of people into three groups according to intellectual data, the vitalistic doctrine of the so-called “vital element,” etc.) he made serious concessions to idealism.

Sun Yat-sen’s teaching, despite its contradictory and bourgeois limitations, was a big step forward in the history of China. A characteristic feature of this doctrine was that in the course of the development of the revolutionary struggle, it was constantly enriched, freeing itself from its conservative elements. “Sun Yat-sen all his life fought for his ideas, for the development of his teaching, and never deviated from these ideas, constantly replenishing and developing his teaching on the three popular principles” (Mao Tse-tung). Under the influence of the October Socialist Revolution in Russia, Sun Yat-sen revised his views, further developed his doctrine of the Three Popular Principles, supplementing it with three political foundations: support for workers and peasants, an alliance with the communists, an alliance with the USSR. Sun Yat-sen was a sincere friend of the Soviet Union.

After the death of Sun Yat-sen, the reactionary elite of the Kuomintang raised the reactionary and conservative sides in the teachings of Sun Yat-sen on the shield and, hiding behind his name, embarked on the path of national betrayal. Only the Chinese working class and its vanguard, the Communist Party, picked up the struggle for the further revolutionarization of the ideological legacy of Sun Yat-sen. The Chinese Communist Party, criticizing the petty-bourgeois utopian and conservative views of Sun Yat-sen, carefully guarded and developed the revolutionary democratic core of its political and economic program. Under the direct influence of the Russian October Revolution in China, a powerful anti-imperialist and anti-feudal movement “May 4th” (1919) arose. At the head of this movement were the first Chinese Marxists, who in those years waged an intense struggle against the feudal-imperialist ideology.

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Jolly Roger έγραψε: 25 Φεβ 2022, 19:04

Dwarven Blacksmith έγραψε: 25 Φεβ 2022, 18:57

John Brown Gun Club έγραψε: 25 Φεβ 2022, 18:51 Ο Μαο συμμαχησε με τους εθνικιστες εναντια στους Γιαπωνες εισβολεις στον δευτερο παγκοσμιο. Μετα τον πολεμο φυσικα τους εξοντωσε.

Well, δεν είναι τόσο απλό.
Για τον Sun Yat-sen τι άποψη έχεις;

εθνικο-αστικοδημοκράτης προοδευτικός για την εποχή του παρά τα αναγκαία μικροαστικά ελαττώματα (άποψη Γ' Διεθνούς)

The most prominent revolutionary in China at the end of the 19th century. and the first quarter of the 20th century. is Sun Yat-sen (1866-1925). Even on the eve of the Chinese revolution of 1911, Sun Yat-sen developed the political platform of the Chinese revolutionaries, which was highly appreciated by V. I. Lenin. “Militant, sincere democracy permeates every line of the Sun Yat-sen platform,” wrote V. I. Lenin in 1912 in his article “Democracy and Populism in China.”

Sun Yat Sen embodied his main ideas in the “three popular principles” – nationalism (the struggle for national independence), democracy (the creation of a republican system) and the people’s welfare (the transfer of land to the peasants and the limitation of capital). Sun Yat-sen’s economic program objectively opened the path of capitalist development for China, although subjectively Sun Yat-sen believed that with the help of his economic program in China, due to feudal backwardness, capitalism could be “prevented.” Sun Yat-sen fully shared Darwin’s materialistic theory of the origin of the world, expressed a number of materialistic thoughts on the theory of knowledge. However, in some issues (classification of people into three groups according to intellectual data, the vitalistic doctrine of the so-called “vital element,” etc.) he made serious concessions to idealism.

Sun Yat-sen’s teaching, despite its contradictory and bourgeois limitations, was a big step forward in the history of China. A characteristic feature of this doctrine was that in the course of the development of the revolutionary struggle, it was constantly enriched, freeing itself from its conservative elements. “Sun Yat-sen all his life fought for his ideas, for the development of his teaching, and never deviated from these ideas, constantly replenishing and developing his teaching on the three popular principles” (Mao Tse-tung). Under the influence of the October Socialist Revolution in Russia, Sun Yat-sen revised his views, further developed his doctrine of the Three Popular Principles, supplementing it with three political foundations: support for workers and peasants, an alliance with the communists, an alliance with the USSR. Sun Yat-sen was a sincere friend of the Soviet Union.

After the death of Sun Yat-sen, the reactionary elite of the Kuomintang raised the reactionary and conservative sides in the teachings of Sun Yat-sen on the shield and, hiding behind his name, embarked on the path of national betrayal. Only the Chinese working class and its vanguard, the Communist Party, picked up the struggle for the further revolutionarization of the ideological legacy of Sun Yat-sen. The Chinese Communist Party, criticizing the petty-bourgeois utopian and conservative views of Sun Yat-sen, carefully guarded and developed the revolutionary democratic core of its political and economic program. Under the direct influence of the Russian October Revolution in China, a powerful anti-imperialist and anti-feudal movement “May 4th” (1919) arose. At the head of this movement were the first Chinese Marxists, who in those years waged an intense struggle against the feudal-imperialist ideology.

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Cavaliere έγραψε: 25 Φεβ 2022, 10:13 Δεν είναι λάθος να παραδωθείς και ναα στείλεις τους στρατιώτες σου στα σπίτια τους. Μεσ΄στο πρόγραμμα είναι. Κάποιες στιγμές πρέπει να κάνεις πίσω για να επιβιώσεις. Αλλιώς χρειάζεσαι γιατρό.

John Brown Gun Club έγραψε: 25 Φεβ 2022, 18:54

Kauldron έγραψε: 25 Φεβ 2022, 03:29 Όταν λέμε οτι την Επανάσταση του 1821 την έκαναν άνθρωποι με αντιλήψεις εθνικιστών (απ' αυτούς που είναι φυλακή τώρα), κάποιοι φωνάζουν, και δεν πιστεύουν.

Μια καλη ιδεα τωρα θα ηταν να στειλουμε πακετο στην πρωτη γραμμη στην Ουκρανια την αυγοηγεσια που ειναι στη φυλακη. Trial by combat.

Kauldron έγραψε: 25 Φεβ 2022, 19:40 Αλλά μην το συζητάμε πολύ, γιατί βλέπω τον Γούντυ ν' ανοίγει νήμα "Η Ουρανία και η Ουκρανία: Με ποιόν είναι τα αβγά?"

John Brown Gun Club έγραψε: 25 Φεβ 2022, 18:51 Ο Μαο συμμαχησε με τους εθνικιστες εναντια στους Γιαπωνες εισβολεις στον δευτερο παγκοσμιο. Μετα τον πολεμο φυσικα τους εξοντωσε.

vag_el έγραψε: 25 Φεβ 2022, 19:14 «Θα ήθελα να απευθυνθώ στους άνδρες του ουκρανικού στρατού, μην αφήσετε αυτούς τους εθνικιστές να σας χρησιμοποιήσουν, τις γυναίκες σας, τα παιδιά σας, τους ηλικιωμένους σας, να τους χρησιμοποιήσουν ως ανθρώπινες ασπίδες» είπε, μεταξύ άλλων.

«Θα είναι πολύ πιο εύκολο να μιλήσω μαζί σας, να διαπραγματευτώ μαζί σας, παρά με αυτή τη συμμορία των ναζί που έχει καταλάβει το Κίεβο» προσέθεσε.

Γάταρος έγραψε: 25 Φεβ 2022, 03:14 Δηλαδή αν γίνει κι εδώ πόλεμος θα πάνε οι κομμουνιστές και οι δημοκράτες έξω από το εφετείο για να φωνάξουν "βγάλτε τους ναζί από τη φυλακή" και μετά θα τρέχουν στα καταφύγια με τα γυναικόπαιδα;