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Μια χαρά τα πήγαινε με τις δυνάμεις που είχε.
Αλλά το μεγάλο ζήτημα ήταν στο ανατολικό μέτωπο που αντί να ακολουθήσει τον ανσκ έφαγε κόλλημα με ιδεολογικούς στόχους.

Όλο μια χαρά τα πήγαιναν αλλά στο τέλος τους έστηναν στα 4 οι αγγλοσάξονες και οι Σκανδιναβόσλαβοι.

Λογικό, δεν μπορείς να τα βάλεις με όλο τον πλανήτη.

Νon4me έγραψε: 03 Ιαν 2021, 20:16 Ειχαν τα καλυτερα τανκς (απλα οχι σε ποσοτητες ) το καλυτερο πολυβολο που χρησιμοποιειται ακομη ως σημερα με ελαχιστες παραλαγες ανεπτυξαν τα τζετ οσο οι αλλοι βοσκαν βελανίδια συν τους β2 που ο απογονος τους εδωσε το πατημα στη σεληνη ... αλλα ο μπλακι ξεκινα μια νεα ιστορια

edit και το πρωτο νυκτος https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zielger%C3%A4t_1229

perseus έγραψε: 03 Ιαν 2021, 20:14

John Brown Gun Club έγραψε: 03 Ιαν 2021, 20:13

perseus έγραψε: 03 Ιαν 2021, 19:51 μονο τα κομετ και με 262 να αναφερω αρκουν ,η μαλακια που εκαναν ηταν οτι αντι να εστιασουν σε αυτα τα νεα οπλα επαιζαν με τις β1 β2 επισης εαν ειχαν ανα[τυξει νωριτερα το

Αυτα ηταν ολα αποτυχιες. Αντιστοιχα πειραματικα μοντελα αεριωθουμενων υπηρχαν και στη συμμαχικη πλευρα, η οποια δεν ηταν τοσο απελπισμενη να τα ριχνει στη μαχη την τελευταια στιγμη πριν καν ολοκληρωθουν οι δοκιμες.

οπως?

wooded glade έγραψε: 03 Ιαν 2021, 20:31 Στους πυραύλους ήταν καλοί οι Γερμανοί.
Αλλά πύραυλος χωρίς πυρηνική κεφαλή είναι σαν την ΑΕΚ χωρίς το Νεστορίδη.

Νon4me έγραψε: 03 Ιαν 2021, 20:16 Ειχαν τα καλυτερα τανκς (απλα οχι σε ποσοτητες ) το καλυτερο πολυβολο που χρησιμοποιειται ακομη ως σημερα με ελαχιστες παραλαγες ανεπτυξαν τα τζετ οσο οι αλλοι βοσκαν βελανίδια συν τους β2 που ο απογονος τους εδωσε το πατημα στη σεληνη ... αλλα ο μπλακι ξεκινα μια νεα ιστορια

edit και το πρωτο νυκτος https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zielger%C3%A4t_1229

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_aircraft

The turbojet was invented in 1939, independently by Frank Whittle and later Hans von Ohain. The first turbojet aircraft to fly was the Heinkel He 178, on August 27, 1939 in Rostock (Germany).[5] This was largely a proof of concept, as the problem of "creep" (metal fatigue caused by the high temperatures within the engine) had not been solved, and the engine quickly burned out.

The first flight of a jet-propelled aircraft to come to public attention was the Italian Caproni Campini N.1 motorjet prototype that flew on August 27, 1940.[6] It was the first jet aircraft recognised by the Fédération Aéronautique Internationale (at the time the German He 178 program was still kept secret). Campini began development of the motorjet in 1932, which differed from a true turbojet, in that the air was driven through by a piston engine, instead of the exhaust gas, a much more complex solution.

The British experimental Gloster E.28/39 first took to the air on May 15, 1941, powered by Sir Frank Whittle's turbojet.[7] The United States produced the Bell XP-59A using two examples of a version of the Whittle engine built by General Electric, which flew on October 1, 1942. The Meteor was the first production jet, with the first orders for production examples being made on 8 August 1941,[8] and the first production airframe flew on 12 January 1944,[9] while the first orders for production Me 262 aircraft weren't issued until 25 May 1943,[10] and the first production Me 262 didn't fly until 28 March 1944[11] despite the Me 262 program having started earlier than that of the Meteor, as Projekt 1065.

The first operational jet fighter was the Messerschmitt Me 262,[12] manufactured by Germany during World War II, which entered service on 19 April 1944 with Erprobungskommando 262 at Lechfeld just south of Augsburg. It was the fastest conventional aircraft of World War II – although there were faster aircraft propelled by unconventional means, such as the rocket-powered Messerschmitt Me 163 Komet. The Messerschmitt Me 262 had first flown on April 18, 1941, with initial plans drawn up by Dr Waldemar Voigt's design team in April 1939, but mass production did not start until early 1944 with the first squadrons operational that year, too late for a decisive effect on the outcome of the war.

Around this time, mid 1944, the United Kingdom's Gloster Meteor was being committed to defence of the UK against the V-1 flying bomb – itself a pulsejet-powered aircraft and direct ancestor of the cruise missile– and then ground-attack operations over Europe in the last months of the war. In 1944 Germany introduced into service the Arado Ar 234 jet reconnaissance and bomber, though chiefly used in the former role, with the Heinkel He 162 Spatz single-jet light fighter premiering as 1944 ended. USSR tested its own Bereznyak-Isayev BI-1 in 1942, but the project was scrapped by Joseph Stalin in 1945. The Imperial Japanese Navy also developed jet aircraft in 1945, including the Nakajima J9Y Kikka, a modified, and slightly smaller version of the Me 262 that had folding wings. By the end of 1945, the US had introduced their first jet fighter, the Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star into service and the UK its second fighter design, the de Havilland Vampire.

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Νon4me έγραψε: 03 Ιαν 2021, 20:35

wooded glade έγραψε: 03 Ιαν 2021, 20:31 Στους πυραύλους ήταν καλοί οι Γερμανοί.
Αλλά πύραυλος χωρίς πυρηνική κεφαλή είναι σαν την ΑΕΚ χωρίς το Νεστορίδη.

Ο πυραυλος που πάτησε στη σεληνη ηταν απογονος του V2 και τον εξελιξε ναζι επιστημονας που μαζεψαν οι αμερικάνοι . end of story .

Δημοκρατικός έγραψε: 03 Ιαν 2021, 20:36

Νon4me έγραψε: 03 Ιαν 2021, 20:16 Ειχαν τα καλυτερα τανκς (απλα οχι σε ποσοτητες ) το καλυτερο πολυβολο που χρησιμοποιειται ακομη ως σημερα με ελαχιστες παραλαγες ανεπτυξαν τα τζετ οσο οι αλλοι βοσκαν βελανίδια συν τους β2 που ο απογονος τους εδωσε το πατημα στη σεληνη ... αλλα ο μπλακι ξεκινα μια νεα ιστορια

edit και το πρωτο νυκτος https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zielger%C3%A4t_1229

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_aircraft

The turbojet was invented in 1939, independently by Frank Whittle and later Hans von Ohain. The first turbojet aircraft to fly was the Heinkel He 178, on August 27, 1939 in Rostock (Germany).[5] This was largely a proof of concept, as the problem of "creep" (metal fatigue caused by the high temperatures within the engine) had not been solved, and the engine quickly burned out.

The first flight of a jet-propelled aircraft to come to public attention was the Italian Caproni Campini N.1 motorjet prototype that flew on August 27, 1940.[6] It was the first jet aircraft recognised by the Fédération Aéronautique Internationale (at the time the German He 178 program was still kept secret). Campini began development of the motorjet in 1932, which differed from a true turbojet, in that the air was driven through by a piston engine, instead of the exhaust gas, a much more complex solution.

The British experimental Gloster E.28/39 first took to the air on May 15, 1941, powered by Sir Frank Whittle's turbojet.[7] The United States produced the Bell XP-59A using two examples of a version of the Whittle engine built by General Electric, which flew on October 1, 1942. The Meteor was the first production jet, with the first orders for production examples being made on 8 August 1941,[8] and the first production airframe flew on 12 January 1944,[9] while the first orders for production Me 262 aircraft weren't issued until 25 May 1943,[10] and the first production Me 262 didn't fly until 28 March 1944[11] despite the Me 262 program having started earlier than that of the Meteor, as Projekt 1065.

The first operational jet fighter was the Messerschmitt Me 262,[12] manufactured by Germany during World War II, which entered service on 19 April 1944 with Erprobungskommando 262 at Lechfeld just south of Augsburg. It was the fastest conventional aircraft of World War II – although there were faster aircraft propelled by unconventional means, such as the rocket-powered Messerschmitt Me 163 Komet. The Messerschmitt Me 262 had first flown on April 18, 1941, with initial plans drawn up by Dr Waldemar Voigt's design team in April 1939, but mass production did not start until early 1944 with the first squadrons operational that year, too late for a decisive effect on the outcome of the war.

Around this time, mid 1944, the United Kingdom's Gloster Meteor was being committed to defence of the UK against the V-1 flying bomb – itself a pulsejet-powered aircraft and direct ancestor of the cruise missile– and then ground-attack operations over Europe in the last months of the war. In 1944 Germany introduced into service the Arado Ar 234 jet reconnaissance and bomber, though chiefly used in the former role, with the Heinkel He 162 Spatz single-jet light fighter premiering as 1944 ended. USSR tested its own Bereznyak-Isayev BI-1 in 1942, but the project was scrapped by Joseph Stalin in 1945. The Imperial Japanese Navy also developed jet aircraft in 1945, including the Nakajima J9Y Kikka, a modified, and slightly smaller version of the Me 262 that had folding wings. By the end of 1945, the US had introduced their first jet fighter, the Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star into service and the UK its second fighter design, the de Havilland Vampire.

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