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https://en.protothema.gr/2024/06/17/isr ... ignations/

Τελος το war cabinet του Νετανιαχου γιατι προφανως δεν εμπιστευεται τους ακροδεξιους φιλους του

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... -hezbollah

Below is an interesting perspective on what's really happening from Middle East researcher and historian Ori Goldberg...

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The Israeli military is the main force behind the public push towards a war with Lebanon. There are three reasons for this state of affairs. The first is the growing realization in the IDF that there will be no "victory" in Gaza. The "war" is an abysmal failure. ...Israel convinced itself it could "eradicate" Hamas exclusively. Israel failed. Israelis don't care about the death of Palestinian civilians.

So the lack of "victory" necessitates an alternative form of ״redemption". This, the IDF believes, can be found in a "real" war. It will be difficult and costly, they say, but it will provide a clear sense of achievement. That is how you snap out of an existential funk.

The second reason for wanting war has to do with Israel's strategic error - the decision to evacuate more than a 100000 civilians from our Northern border. They were evacuated under the false pretenses that Hizballah was about to invade and start a two-front war.

The IDF is now stuck. The civilians were told there was an impending invasion. How will they return home? How will the IDF fulfill its most basic duty in its own perception- defending Israeli civilians? The IDF can recommend negotiations with Lebanon. Not really.

The IDF does not believe in negotiations. It assumes Israel will, ultimately, have to go to war against Lebanon (remember, they all want to destroy us). The IDF can deploy more troops at the border to calm the civilians down. That is seen as expensive and impractical.

War is the only "option" on the table. It is "inevitable" (to be clear, I think Israel will not start a war). It is the only "resolution". The third reason the IDF wants war is because the Israeli political system is beginning to break down across the board.

The citizens may agree with government policy (support for the genocide) but they don't trust the government. The government itself is torn between settlers (pining for empire) and generals (focused on "military dominance), and is soing very little governing.

PM Netanyahu never accepts responsibility for his actions. He is a world class outsourcer of blame. The IDF knows that Netanyahu will blame the military leadership for the only "mistake" Israelis care about- the very occurrence of the October 7th massacre.

Nobody in Israel cares about the genocide. This is as astounding as it is true. Israeli want a scapegoat to "take responsibility" for what they perceive as the initial failure (no context or history preceding the massacre). Netanyahu wants to indict the military brass.

A war in Lebanon will vindicate the military there as well. As Israel implodes, they will be able to present a success. Lessons will have been learned and "order" restored. This is Israel now, so consumed with itself it thinks nothing of consuming everyone else.

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1803148475225313410

The Commanding Officer of the Northern Command, MG Ori Gordin, and the Head of the Operations Directorate, MG Oded Basiuk, approved operational plans and held a joint situational assessment in the Northern Command earlier today.

As part of the situational assessment, operational plans for an offensive in Lebanon were approved and validated, and decisions were taken on the continuation of increasing the readiness of troops in the field.

Lebanese sources reported that Amos Hochstein delivered an Israeli message to the Lebanese government according to which:

If Hezbollah does not retreat north beyond the Litani river by 6/24 Israel will start a war in Lebanon.

https://t.me/beholdisraelchannel/34102

Σημείωση. Ο συγκεκριμένος ισραηλινός έχει παπαρολογήσει αρκετές φορές αλλά έχει πέσει και μέσα αρκετές άλλες. Οπότε, with a grain of salt

12'

https://www.axios.com/2024/06/19/netany ... an-meeting

White House cancels meeting, scolds Netanyahu in protest over video

The White House canceled a high-level U.S.-Israel meeting on Iran that was scheduled for Thursday after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu released a video on Tuesday claiming the U.S. was withholding military aid, two U.S. officials tell Axios.

Why it matters: President Biden's top advisers were enraged by the video — a message U.S. envoy Amos Hochstein delivered personally to Netanyahu in a meeting hours after it was published, two U.S. and Israeli sources say. Then the White House decided to go a step farther by canceling Thursday's meeting.

"This decision makes it clear that there are consequences for pulling such stunts," a U.S. official said.
"The Americans are fuming. Bibi's video made a lot of damage," a senior Israeli official said, using a nickname for Netanyahu.
Some Israeli officials were already en route to Washington when the meeting was cancelled.
Two U.S. officials told Axios the meeting was canceled to send a message about the video. A third claimed the meeting was postponed rather than canceled, due to a scheduling issue.

student έγραψε: 19 Ιουν 2024, 15:37 https://www.axios.com/2024/06/19/netany ... an-meeting

White House cancels meeting, scolds Netanyahu in protest over video

The White House canceled a high-level U.S.-Israel meeting on Iran that was scheduled for Thursday after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu released a video on Tuesday claiming the U.S. was withholding military aid, two U.S. officials tell Axios.

Why it matters: President Biden's top advisers were enraged by the video — a message U.S. envoy Amos Hochstein delivered personally to Netanyahu in a meeting hours after it was published, two U.S. and Israeli sources say. Then the White House decided to go a step farther by canceling Thursday's meeting.

"This decision makes it clear that there are consequences for pulling such stunts," a U.S. official said.
"The Americans are fuming. Bibi's video made a lot of damage," a senior Israeli official said, using a nickname for Netanyahu.
Some Israeli officials were already en route to Washington when the meeting was cancelled.
Two U.S. officials told Axios the meeting was canceled to send a message about the video. A third claimed the meeting was postponed rather than canceled, due to a scheduling issue.

Έχουνε πάει την λέξη - έννοια αλαζονεία σε άλλα επίπεδά οι πούστηδες.
Καλά πάει κι αυτό όμως, δε λέω.

ti leei εχομε νεα απο τον αιφνιδιασμο;;;
Κατι ακουσα οτι ο αιφνιδιασμος θα λαμψει και στο νοτιο λιβανο.

ΞΕΚΩΛΙΑΣΜΟΣ ΚΑΙ ΤΗΣ ΧΕΖΜΠΟΛΑΧ!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... aza-hamas/

Dwarven Blacksmith έγραψε: 19 Ιουν 2024, 18:10 https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... aza-hamas/

Δεν έχει ολοκληρωθεί η επιχείρηση στην Ράφα. Όταν ολοκληρωθεί θα δούμε τί θα 'χει γίνει.

Golden Age έγραψε: 19 Ιουν 2024, 20:21

Dwarven Blacksmith έγραψε: 19 Ιουν 2024, 18:10 https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... aza-hamas/

Δεν έχει ολοκληρωθεί η επιχείρηση στην Ράφα. Όταν ολοκληρωθεί θα δούμε τί θα 'χει γίνει.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/202 ... #422718637

O IDF λεει ξεκαθαρα οτι δεν μπορει να κερδισει την Χαμας

Στρακαστρουκας έγραψε: 19 Ιουν 2024, 21:16

Golden Age έγραψε: 19 Ιουν 2024, 20:21

Dwarven Blacksmith έγραψε: 19 Ιουν 2024, 18:10 https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... aza-hamas/

Δεν έχει ολοκληρωθεί η επιχείρηση στην Ράφα. Όταν ολοκληρωθεί θα δούμε τί θα 'χει γίνει.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/202 ... #422718637

O IDF λεει ξεκαθαρα οτι δεν μπορει να κερδισει την Χαμας

Αυτό που είπε ο εκπρόσωπος του IDF το είπε γενικά για την Χαμάς. Αναφέρει και ότι είναι και πολιτικό κίνημα κλπ. Το ζητούμενο είναι να διαλύσουν τον στρατιωτικό της βραχίωνα. Αυτό μπορεί να γίνει. Χωρίς τον στρατιωτικό της βραχίωνα δεν θα έχει την δύναμη να εκβιάζει στον ίδιο βαθμό με το παρελθόν τους Παλαιστινίους της Γάζας και σταδιακά θα σβήσει και απο πολιτική δύναμη.

nostromos έγραψε: 13 Ιουν 2024, 02:07 https://xtwitter.com/spectatorindex/sta ... 4335434790

Δεν έσβησες το x και δεν ανοίγει.

https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/stat ... 4335434790